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Kata
Jul 20, 2013 18:06:18 GMT -5
Post by powerof0ne on Jul 20, 2013 18:06:18 GMT -5
I disagree, there is many useless kata because most people do not practice the techniques from them in realistic training applications.
Unsu, Aoyagi, Superinpei, Heiku, Paiho, and many other traditional kata have very few realistic techniques that are applicable.
Even many of the kata that do have techniques only have a few that are practical, usually not the entire kata. Oyo, bunkai, okuden waza, and so forth are only for bits and pieces of a kata.
However, this is all my opinion. I spent a long time in shito ryu, and also go to shodan in goju ryu before I took up Muay Thai and Kyokushin. I've done seminars in Ryuei Ryu, Shorin Ryu, Shotokan, and trained in Aikido to brown belt..I'm displeased with most kata and the way it's practiced. I liked it in goju ryu, and I've seen other goju ryu orgs/fractions that even take it to a much more positive step than the goju I was taught in regards to kata.
I still teach kata and have it performed for rank tests from students but I do so because I know that even my own students won't necessarily agree with my opinion. As an instructor I like to give students many options, and the choice for them to decide on what they want to do with it.
Sorry for the tangent, but I wasn't joking when I used to know and do around over 50 different kata...and that was while I was still a teen. Osu!
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Kata
Jul 21, 2013 17:38:16 GMT -5
Post by meguro on Jul 21, 2013 17:38:16 GMT -5
Independent instructors are in a unique and enviable position of being able to teach kata any way they see fit.
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Oct 21, 2013 1:23:54 GMT -5
Post by babyface on Oct 21, 2013 1:23:54 GMT -5
do you think everyone doing kyokushin should learn kata's? as i hear in japan alot do not do them when they do gradings and so on.
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shugyo
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Kata
Dec 28, 2013 23:22:07 GMT -5
Post by shugyo on Dec 28, 2013 23:22:07 GMT -5
I disagree, there is many useless kata because most people do not practice the techniques from them in realistic training applications.
Unsu, Aoyagi, Superinpei, Heiku, Paiho, and many other traditional kata have very few realistic techniques that are applicable. Even many of the kata that do have techniques only have a few that are practical, usually not the entire kata. Oyo, bunkai, okuden waza, and so forth are only for bits and pieces of a kata. However, this is all my opinion. I spent a long time in shito ryu, and also go to shodan in goju ryu before I took up Muay Thai and Kyokushin. I've done seminars in Ryuei Ryu, Shorin Ryu, Shotokan, and trained in Aikido to brown belt..I'm displeased with most kata and the way it's practiced. I liked it in goju ryu, and I've seen other goju ryu orgs/fractions that even take it to a much more positive step than the goju I was taught in regards to kata. I still teach kata and have it performed for rank tests from students but I do so because I know that even my own students won't necessarily agree with my opinion. As an instructor I like to give students many options, and the choice for them to decide on what they want to do with it. Sorry for the tangent, but I wasn't joking when I used to know and do around over 50 different kata...and that was while I was still a teen. Osu! To the bold type above... I've always held this close to my heart. If any Bunkai isn't effective, it's not because the Bunkai is ineffective, it's the practitioner who's at fault for its ineffectiveness, one reason or another, imho!!
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