residentrenzo
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Post by residentrenzo on Apr 28, 2015 14:53:47 GMT -5
Hey there!
Yet another technical issue I'd like to comment:
I'm still having issues with proper kicking technique. Involving the hips and correct balance are my main problems. I was told that I should strengthen my core to get better stability and proper feet balance.
My kicking is too slow because I chamber the kick like this:
1) Rise my knee as in hiza geri mae
2) As I turn my hips with knee raised, I spin my supporting leg outside, rolling on the ball of the foot (chusoku)
3) leg does the kicking motion and re chambers
Anyway, my stretching is OK but I can't get my leg above waist level. Also, the kick "connects" not in front of me, but goes beyond and past center body line. Same with yoko geri-if I'm not careful, the foot hits at 45 angle off the center of the body.
Ushiro mawashi kicks (any spinning kick, for that matter) are even harder.
Perhaps I should upload a video of me trying these kicks.
Osu!
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Post by GJEC on Apr 28, 2015 15:08:10 GMT -5
Video please!
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Post by senshido on Apr 29, 2015 6:51:59 GMT -5
yes definitely need a video, its hard to visualize at the moment
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Post by meguro on Apr 29, 2015 7:31:36 GMT -5
Ah screw it, I'm going to give advice without seeing a video. These recommendations could be way off, but there you go.  1. How high can you raise your knee? That height predicts how high you might be able to kick. If not very high, there are flexibility and mobility issues that will need to be addressed. 2. If you are kicking beyond the center line, you are either over rotating on your support leg, or your knees are trashed and you are not aware of it. 3. Kick something, not air. Your kicks will improve dramatically if you have feedback from hitting something. A target will help you solve over-rotation, and under-rotation as well. 4. If you raise your knee as in a forward hiza geri, you don't get the benefit of pushing off with your kicking leg to power your rotation. Turn the heel of your support leg first (or step into the kick), then your kicking leg follows. |
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residentrenzo
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Post by residentrenzo on Apr 29, 2015 10:35:34 GMT -5
I can rise my knee above waist level. But as I turn my hip, the knee sorta dips down.
Anyway, I'll upload a video this week, soon as I can recruit some help... promise!!
OSU!
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Post by MMX on Apr 29, 2015 12:48:17 GMT -5
For Mawashi Geri the knee should rise more to the side as you chamber and then turn the hip as you extend. If you start with the knee front the kick will be fast but not powerful.
Another thing that helps some folks is DRIVE FORWARD. Don' lean back ever. If you can't kick high without leaning back it is not gonna matter. Drive in kick as high as you can and work on flexibility in the mean time. That will help you to maintain balance and power.
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residentrenzo
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Post by residentrenzo on Apr 29, 2015 20:10:41 GMT -5
Finally, here's the video. I just did this a while ago after training at dojo. I can see even more issues there, but anyway. Here's the URL: Mawashi Geri Kicks Osu! -Renzo. |
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Post by Kurisu on Apr 29, 2015 21:19:10 GMT -5
Osu! Do you feel tightness in your hips when you try to kick?
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Post by meguro on Apr 30, 2015 4:27:51 GMT -5
Thanks for putting up the video. In addition to my previous recommendations, which I stand by even now, I notice that very little of your upper body is involved in the kick. In contrast, check out Kenji Midori's mawashi geri. Notice how he powers the rotation with his arms and upper body. youtu.be/NmWKaHqmZ6EBas Rutten also uses his torso, but notice his emphasis on placement and position of the support foot youtu.be/OgrHiWlpRGcPersonally, I don't like kicking along the imaginary line at 180ยบ. I prefer to step off line. More power for me. |
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Post by GJEC on Apr 30, 2015 4:38:25 GMT -5
Mobilise those hips. Pile up a few bricks outside and step over them. Gradually increase the height as your balance improves. Don't put any power in as power is the enemy of relaxation.
I'll see if I can film this.
Gary
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Post by karate4life on May 1, 2015 10:30:00 GMT -5
Osu! Thanks for putting the video up RR. This definitely looks like a hip flexibility issue to me which might be a strange thing to accept for a Karateka who can do some decent stretching. Are you sitting a lot at work? I'm asking because I've had the same problems like you describe them when I came back to Karate after a long sabbatical, and I had to get rid of the consequences of sitting for about 20 years 8h on 5 days per week. Do you have problems to squat deep as well? I did, and what helped me greatly were lots of goblet squats and couch stretches. Here are some videos: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrVgpDOLlgMwww.youtube.com/watch?v=SaeAvGh6gkgAdd to that the missing interaction between upper and lower body (maybe caused by insufficient core strength) and you might be onto something. Good luck! Osu! |
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Post by residentrenzo on May 2, 2015 12:48:07 GMT -5
Thanks for your feedback! Lack of core strength is definitely an issue. I think I get the bit about using more hip. Would setting supporting foot and rising knee at 45/90 angle would help? Obviously I don't have the balance or control Master Midori has and never will, not in 1000 years' time  A nice short video demonstrating kicking movement with hip and torso would help me understand better  Don't have KB and don't train with them yet. Guess I should get on that ASAP! OSU! |
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Post by karate4life on May 9, 2015 14:49:02 GMT -5
Lack of core strength is definitely an issue. Would setting supporting foot and rising knee at 45/90 angle would help? Obviously I don't have the balance or control Master Midori has and never will, not in 1000 years' time Don't have KB and don't train with them yet. Guess I should get on that ASAP! OSU! I'd like to recommend heavy squats and deadlifts. See here: www.stronglifts.com. If that doesn't get your core strong, nothing will. Definitely yes for the foot. For the knee maybe 45, not more of you want to kick high. Keeping the supporting foot straight or only at a slight angle will not only severely restrict your range of motion, but there is also the danger of damaging your knees. Neither do I nor does anyone I know. Who has? This guy's a mystery to me. See above, but if it's KBs or barbells doesn't really matter as long as you get stronger. Chose what you like to do, and do it. Again: Good luck, and enjoy it. Osu! |
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Post by powerof0ne on May 13, 2015 9:59:34 GMT -5
I'd second what Gary is saying; and not everybody is gifted with hip mobility neither. Unfortunately, the video didn't work when I clicked on it. My question to you without watching the video is this; when you're pivoting on the ball of your foot (chosoku), is your heel sticking up? I only ask because in most kickboxing and Muay Thai schools of thought, this is a good habit. In karate, this can be a bad habit...can be (depends on school and instructor). I prefer somewhere sort of in between. In regards to chambering; I'd rather a student practice proper chambering instead of worrying about speed. If you start skipping over chambering too much it can lead to sloppy habits & bad technique. In regards to Kenji Midori....I believe most of us wish we could kick like him . Osu! |
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Post by residentrenzo on May 20, 2015 1:53:19 GMT -5
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