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Post by yoshukai on Jun 30, 2011 16:56:19 GMT -5
Osu!
This past Monday, we had a so called MMA fighter come and wanted to train with us for our upcoming knockdown tournament.
First we hit some pads. Luckily I was paired with the guy. I quickly saw that his striking ability was much weaker than some of our newest students, who have no prior karate training. In the back of my mind, I started thinking MMA fighter or MMA wannabe...
Just curious if anyone else has any experience with the wannabe's?
Osu
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Post by medguy on Jun 30, 2011 17:57:31 GMT -5
Oh, yeah... Had a guy sign up at the dojo, and was directed my way for some stand up fighter training--he got knocked out with a low kick in the first round and then didn't want to train with me again. told the owner that I kick too hard. My response was "I kick too hard? This was fun. There are guys out there who want to take your head off for a piece of plastic and maybe some gas money." he went to another gym where they could "yes man" him.
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Post by powerof0ne on Jun 30, 2011 22:20:09 GMT -5
I've seen it happen at karate dojo because the idiots assume they'll be seen as some tough guy if they have MMA experience not thinking that perhaps others at the karate dojo really do have MMA experience. I can't remember seeing it happen at a BJJ or MMA school. I quickly put them in their place by asking what gyms they train at, what arts...and they can't give me names of their trainers and I play along without calling them a liar and just say "that's strange, I know the trainers in your area but you never trained with them and claim to train in that style?". About five times now over the years I've had this happen and then they result in saying something like "it was private training at his house". The craziest one I had happen was a guy walk in with a home made bauffing broad sword strapped to his back. I still don't know how I kept a straight face when he said he trained in capoeira, BJJ, and MMA and resembled Jack Black. What I do stop from happening is them even attempting a trial class with my line of questioning .
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Post by wullie on Jul 1, 2011 7:27:49 GMT -5
It's only going to get worse! Xbox kinect (?) now has a UFC training 'game' with real trainers and fighters wow-ee!
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Post by wullie on Jul 1, 2011 16:30:07 GMT -5
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Post by powerof0ne on Jul 1, 2011 19:44:41 GMT -5
Funny you bring that up Wullie. Referred a friend of mine to train at a MMA gym that is 5 minutes from where he lives..head instructor at that gym is a UFC fighter that is on xbox live talking about the new UFC deal on kinect LOL. Fellow class mate of mine is the assistant instructor at that same gym, too. Small world! What really sux is that they have legit MMA fighters talking about the "benefits" of this *rolls eyes*.
However, if Xbox live or whomever paid me enough money I'd do the same thing LOL! Osu!
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Post by wullie on Jul 2, 2011 0:56:14 GMT -5
I reckon the game will be a decent enough aerobic work out, my concern is how many people will buy this, follow the on screen instructions then think they are learning a martial art and becoming a fighter whilst only learning to be as effective as tae bo. Better people stick to the dance type work outs.
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Post by yoshukai on Jul 3, 2011 16:59:13 GMT -5
Now that I think about it, the guy was wearing an Affliction shirt. Now everyone that wears tapout, affliction, and ufc type clothes think they are a MMA fighter.
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Post by hangtime on Jul 5, 2011 8:53:11 GMT -5
I want to clothesline every person I see wearing a Tapout T-shirt. ...some dude at my gym wears MMA fighter shorts & MMA type t-shirts...wait, I guess they could be boardshorts OSU!
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Post by ironcastknight on Jul 5, 2011 12:35:36 GMT -5
I've never understood the point of pretending to be something one isn't. Much like a very bald man with a wispy combover, nobody will ever buy it and the only person who could ever be fooled is oneself.
Plus, it's not like actually training MMA is all that hard! Sure it kinda hurts when someone in cheap, thin mma gloves punches one repeatedly in the face, and rather hurts when they're using the floor as an anvil, but most of the time it's just practical exercises, drilling, sparring, more drilling, and rolling.
Hell, given a year or two of decent training one could even take a fight or two and become a MMA fighter in actuality. Probably lose, but that's part of the game.
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Post by powerof0ne on Jul 8, 2011 0:13:00 GMT -5
I've never understood the point of pretending to be something one isn't. Much like a very bald man with a wispy combover, nobody will ever buy it and the only person who could ever be fooled is oneself. Plus, it's not like actually training MMA is all that hard! Sure it kinda hurts when someone in cheap, thin mma gloves punches one repeatedly in the face, and rather hurts when they're using the floor as an anvil, but most of the time it's just practical exercises, drilling, sparring, more drilling, and rolling. Hell, given a year or two of decent training one could even take a fight or two and become a MMA fighter in actuality. Probably lose, but that's part of the game. Unfortunately I know MMA gyms where you spar 100% trying to knock out your opponents, neck cranks at full force, and so forth. Some of these gyms are ran by pro fighters. I don't agree in this method of training, neither. I think a proper MMA gym is just as hard as any good Kyokushin dojo. All styles can equally be trained at the same level of intensity is what I believe in. If you're a serious MMA fighter or kickboxer/thaiboxer, even at the amateur level requires a good 15-20 hours of solid training a week for at least a month leading up to the fight. Any half decent MMA gym with half decent fighters is open 5-7 days a week typically so the trainers can put this kind of gym time in with their fighters. That's the difference I see with many MMA gyms and dojo today. Many dojo only have 2-6 hours of instruction a week when many MMA gyms have 3-6+ hours of instruction available 5-7 days a week. With all of that being said, having fought in Muay Thai fights and coached some fighters myself I don't think it's worth it to go into fights but then again there are more monetary opportunities today...I wish I could travel back in time and tell the old powerof0ne to focus more on school LOL! Osu!
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Post by ironcastknight on Jul 8, 2011 3:06:34 GMT -5
When I was training at a local MMA place I was generally doing 12ish hours of training a week just because I could, so I guess maybe it's not really all that easy, but I still feel that it's easier to actually do than lie out one's ass pretending they're something they're not.
Unless it involves roadwork. Much rather lie than jog.
Of course, I've never been a social butterfly in any way, shape, or form, so for me being punched in the face has always been preferable over having to talk to people.
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Post by yoshukai on Jul 12, 2011 21:09:08 GMT -5
Had another MMA guy come and train with us last night. This guy was the exact opposite of the one from a few weeks ago. He came in while I was heading some bag work. He jumped right in and you could tell that he at least had an idea of what he was doing.
Good thing was he didn't show up wearing a tapout shirt. Thank God! Haha
He is wanting to fight in our upcoming knockdown tournament and is going to start coming on monday nights for pad work and kumite training. I am glad to see some MMA guys are down to earth and respectful.
Osu!
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Post by hangtime on Jul 13, 2011 8:39:18 GMT -5
Should be interesting. Any idea what division he'd be fighting in?
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Post by havamal on Jul 13, 2011 11:18:26 GMT -5
well, i suck at MMA, but I do have, "thank you, sir, may I have another" attitude and have respect for MMA people, as they live the phrase, "fight to get fit." Nevertheless, I know I am a MMA wannabe, but I am training to be a decent MMA player.
My main challenges are to increase my anaerobic stamina, stretching, & BJJ.
Osu
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