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Post by MMX on Jul 11, 2014 11:09:12 GMT -5
Well true. Maybe about 200 years ago sport combat became a thing to woo the crowds where both fighters survived. Before that it was to the DEATH.
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Post by GJEC on Jul 11, 2014 12:38:40 GMT -5
Prize fighting was well developed as a fighting system long before 200 years ago. It enjoyed the patronage of the nobility and huge crowds gathered in natural ampitheatres.
The general concensus is that modern boxers are fitter and faster but few - if any - would have the grit to go 100 bare knuckle rounds.
James Figg in his prime against any top karate-ka? Figg every time. Then he'd beat them with cudgels and swords and drink them under the table.
Gary
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Post by MMX on Jul 11, 2014 14:57:04 GMT -5
I knew Gary would know more! I was just taking a guess really.
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Post by GJEC on Jul 11, 2014 15:39:07 GMT -5
I'm no expert but like to read up on 'our' home grown systems. Archery, quarterstaff, wrestling and prize fighting were taken as seriously here as anywhere in the orient without the spiritual baggage. The fact these MA practitioners were extremely effective indicates the inclusion of zen etc in combat training is a distraction rather than a neccessity. Gary iainabernethy.co.uk/article/james-figg-first-bare-knuckle-boxing-champion
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