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Post by powerof0ne on Apr 23, 2011 10:44:20 GMT -5
I first learned how to bob and weave about 14 years ago and trained it for a while. For boxing I think it's a great skill and should be required.
However, for anything that allows knees and kicks I think it should be done with big caution.
I wish I had a video of this but I saw someone I trained with fight for a MT title that tried to bob and weave and took a MT chudan level roundhouse right to the chin. If he didn't bob and weave it would have only hit him in the stomach. Anyway, that kick ended the fight resulting in him getting KO.
Personally, bobbing and weaving isn't a skill I really teach nor stress but then again I have never trained anybody to do a boxing match, neither. I do teach slipping punches, though and to be honest I'm still trying to get that down!
What are some of your thoughts and/or experiences with bobbing and weaving?
Osu!
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wullie
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I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, there's no way you can prove anything!
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Post by wullie on Apr 23, 2011 14:41:45 GMT -5
i totaly agree PO1, why make it easier for your opponent to kick you in the head!
a little bit of head movement isn't a bad thing, but dropping it below your shoulder height is asking for trouble IMO
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Post by senshido on Apr 23, 2011 16:03:36 GMT -5
its good for boxers... but if your opponent is kicking... different strategy required!  |
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Post by powerof0ne on Apr 23, 2011 16:28:20 GMT -5
I'll still teach people how to do it because even though I think it's a risky thing to do when kicks and knees are involved I have seen some make it work. I do like doing a 1, 2 bob and weave back to forward and follow up with a lead hook or another straight cross. I know some fancier combinations involving bobbing and weaving but like I said or tried to say, I'm no boxer  . Osu! |
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Post by MMX on Apr 23, 2011 20:50:53 GMT -5
I think it is a good skill to learn but for knockdown you have to change how you use it.
My Senpai has used it to duck Medguy's Jodan Mawashi Geri...
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Post by powerof0ne on Apr 23, 2011 23:29:53 GMT -5
Yeah, just because I think it's risky and have seen it fail...but I have also seen it work doesn't mean somebody else can't use it. If I ever train any fighters again it's something I won't be having them do for a fight, though.
Osu!
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Post by meguro on Apr 26, 2011 8:53:49 GMT -5
Bobbing and weaving are the antithesis to the traditional karate kumite no kamae, neither work or have limited application outside the confines of their respective games. ;D
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Testing the waters. Thanks for the forum MMX!
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Post by curlbroscience on Apr 26, 2011 12:48:09 GMT -5
In Muay Thai the head is the sacred temple and other than a select few Thai Boxers (Samart, Saenchai) bobbing and weaving are discouraged. Our Kru though has me doing some bob drills during thai pads that I have not seen him make others do. He makes me bob, left hook body, right hook head, knee and elbow. Push off. I think it may be related to my Height. He usually just teaches the slips, covers, and leans. Lean is excellent for Jodan Mawashi Geri because it puts you back in much quicker and you can recoil off of the lean back (ie sabaki method examples of metronome and swing).
As others have said bobbing and weaving when kicks are allowed is dangerous. I also think it's conducive to boxing because they do not allow clinching and when in that clinch range they usually bob, weave and change angles which would not be the case if you could clinch, knee and elbow.
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