undoing of MMA for me

[powerof0ne]

May 18, 2011 20:46:39 GMT -5 gotapex said:

Unfortunately, if rabid fans turn you off to a sport, you'll probably won't be interested in any popular sport. The same thing happens with Nascar, import racing, baseball, basketball, soccer, football, etc.[/quote
Rabid fans don't turn me off, idiots that think they're "UFC fighters" that don't train, tick me off.

I don't see this phenomenon as much with boxing fans as I do with MMA fans for whatever reason(s).
Osu!

[MMX]

I think because any dufus that tries to box with his friends gets hurt really bad just trying...

;D

[hangtime]

Gotapex has a point...I don't like Nascar & Georgia Bulldog football either for the same reasons.

OSU!

[gimptron]

PO1, this is why I made the "Appreciation" thread. Another reason is the majority of fighters not being "well rounded" like they claim. I have nothing against grappling but it gets on my nerves to see LnP and officials letting it happen or the fighter always going for the takedown. But those are the rules of MMA so no point in complaining. LOL!!!

[havamal]

watching MMA's so-so unless it's A. Silva, GSP, or Rik Ellis (in the UK), but sparring MMA-style's very good for karate.

[powerof0ne]

Sept 12, 2012 14:20:24 GMT -5 havamal said:

watching MMA's so-so unless it's A. Silva, GSP, or Rik Ellis (in the UK), but sparring MMA-style's very good for karate.

I won't disagree, I recently didn't go watch a friend of mine that I trained with years ago, fight for a title because I can't tolerate the "scene" much at all anymore.

About the only time I'll pay to see a UFC when I know Anderson Silva is fighting, because I know he'll actually try to win by KO or submission!!! I used to love watching GSP, but he is an athlete now, not somebody that's trying to win a fight...but, he is a tremendous athelete with a lot of school, just a bit different than Silva, if you know what I mean.
Osu!

[italiantank]

I agree. I'm a pro MMA fighter and have been doing it for 9 years. I'd rather watch K-1 then some of the MMA crap on TV or at the local scene. I think it has more to do with our culture here in the US. Its like that with almost every sport in the US. Every Promoter is out to make money and don't have passion for the sport they promote. People don't know what MMA is. They just know UFC, because the UFC has monopolized the sport of MMA and are turning it into a pro wrestling type of atmosphere. The fans are just ridiculous. That's why i'd rather fight in another country because of the respect given by the fans win or lose. Most MMA fighters today, pro and even amateur , have this huge chip on their shoulder if they are undefeated. They come into my gym to train with me and I gladly humble them. I tell them unless you're a top ten guy in the world you're a nobody. you got to get there if you want to be a somebody. osu

[italiantank]

By the way, now there are guys that have a few amateur fights opening up these small gyms where I live and people actually pay to train there with these guys. It blows my mind. Sorry, this subject gets my blood boiling.

[tmd]

I'm with Gotapex, gave up going to and now even watching football regularly, even though if you listen to 'SPORT' radio stations it seems like the only sport we do in the UK (and we are not even very good at it he he )

I like MMA but tend to only watch it on DVD's so avoid the nonsense but I know what you mean and have seen this at the shows we have been to where it is on the bill.

[powerof0ne]

Sept 16, 2012 12:38:47 GMT -5 italiantank said:

By the way, now there are guys that have a few amateur fights opening up these small gyms where I live and people actually pay to train there with these guys. It blows my mind. Sorry, this subject gets my blood boiling.

Glad to see somebody else, who agrees

It's a shame, too, because, it's something I have been involved with for a long time, have many friends that compete in MMA fights, etc.

I some times feel like an old grouchy man, talking about "back when I was your age we had...Pride"

I feel like a hipster, too, started disliking much of MMA, when it became popular with the masses. It was much more enjoyable back when not many were into it...
Osu!

[powerof0ne]

I also think you hit it on the nail, Italiantank, about wanting to fight in other countries!

I wasn't a MMA fighter, just have helped out over the years, teaching striking to MMA fighters, and aspiring ones .

I consider, or considered myself one of the earliest fans of the UFC...I still remember as a kid, in '93, my Dad renting the old ones on VHS, and following it's evolution...than to years later being lucky enough to be around guys like, Maurice Smith, TK, Frank Shamrock, Josh Barnett, and others.

I am glad that fighters like yourself, are getting paid much more, than they were a decade+ ago, and hope that you all continue to get paid more, and can actually make a living from it.
Osu!

[italiantank]

Well, the pay is better but only if you have a name or know the promoter personally. It seems that more and more promoters are doing amateur events because it cost less and they get to pocket more money. So now regional promotions that do pro are doing less shows which means there are less fights for pro's and less money. There is a amateur event every week where I live not to mention there are UFC's on tv every couple weeks. That means less in ticket sales for the shows. A lot of promoters including some big ones like Bellator, KOTC, TitanFC will put fighters on that can sell the most tickets. This is another reason why I like fighting out of the US because they don't do that. I starting to get away from MMA and more into Knockdown and Kickboxing. There's more respect for the sport and the individuals that compete in them. OSU!