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Post by powerof0ne on Sept 30, 2012 16:54:45 GMT -5
You're right. They should definitely get a warning. It definitely looks bad. Its still legal but if the fighter constantly does it because of fatigue then they'll get a warning and then a point deducted. I know Shinya Aoki or Vinny Maghalaes does it but it usually transitions into a submission or sweep. I always tell my guys to not pull guard in MMA or BJJ because you would never pull guard on the street. osu Very good  You're not training your guys primarily for the "sport jiu jitsu" side, like some instructors do, which is great. I used to watch a lot of Aoki's fights, and he's what I consider an exceptional grappler from his back, and not the norm. Osu! |
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Post by tmd on Dec 4, 2012 15:11:10 GMT -5
ever really seen the point from being good on your back except the sport side of things. Last thing you wanna be really.
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Post by shawvez on Dec 4, 2012 20:51:53 GMT -5
I'm taking bjj and there are some egos at play when it comes to the "MMA" crowd. Luckily the professor there is top notch and manages it well. If he's out of the dojo.......the mice play. I think alot of it has to do with confidence. Students get a false sense of it by elevating themselves in their own mind. Like anything else people want to be accepted, usual fear of failing.
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Post by powerof0ne on Dec 16, 2012 21:56:41 GMT -5
The funny thing about BJJ to me (I've trained in it off and on for over a decade) is that some people have a certain ego but don't train MMA, they just train "sport BJJ," meaning all they train is ne-waza with the gi....also meaning they have very limited experience with striking. There are also the "type" that train in a bunch of stuff, are very well rounded... There is the "wrestler type" who train in it to learn submissions but usually don't expand on their position game, much... There are a few different types in BJJ, at least in my experience. Usually those that are experienced enough, have respect for all martial arts, just as there are those in Kyokushin, Muay Thai, kung fu, etc. that do, too... But there are definitely some stereotypical types, and stereotypes happen for a reason, because there are a lot of people that fit that mold. Many people say stereotyping is bad, but it happens for a reason...more times than not, in my experience...however, I'm not close minded, and always make room for the exception(s), and I know exceptions. My first time teaching martial arts completely on my own was when I took up BJJ, the BJJ instructor I started under (Marcelo Alonso), had me teach Muay Thai to his "Vale Tudo" (MMA) class. I treasure this experience, it helped made me who I am, today as an instructor, and gave me lots of one on one experience grappling with somebody who's now a 5th degree black belt in BJJ (he was a 3rd back than). However, I'm the "type" who took up BJJ, to get experienced at one to avoid, so I can put myself in the position, to capitalize with strikes. I never took BJJ with any wish to compete in BJJ tournaments, etc. I'm very content with my "base" in BJJ. Not all BJJ schools are "MMA gyms," that is something that many people that take it up, need to learn. Somebody I taught in 10th Special Forces Group who's from Brazil, was my Muay Thai and Kyokushin student, but not for that long, not even close to getting a brown belt or above from me...and he became the "striking coach" at a well known MMA gym because nobody there really knew how to strike. All they do is focus on BJJ...and they think this guy is a great instructor for striking....when he only trained under me for 1.5 years. I see this happen at "MMA" gyms far too often. But than, we have great and awesome MMA gyms that have it down to a science, that are doing everything right, very very very well rounded. My advice, figure out what you want to do, what your goals are, and train anywhere that will help you meet these goals. Unfortunately, many of us don't truly know until years of training down the road  ....I being one of those people. Osu! |
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Post by havamal on Jan 4, 2013 11:15:59 GMT -5
There is no doubt that MMA is a skill base that is amazing. My problem is watching ground fighting is not as exciting as Standup work. I would rather watch K-1/Kickboxing/Knockdown/Boxing/or regular Judo. That is just me though. i hear ya, bro', I feel the same |
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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 5, 2013 13:52:48 GMT -5
I'm scheduled to tentatively be the Muay Thai/Kickboxing coach at a TKD/MMA gym. This place has hired a great BJJ instructor who's also associated with Marcelo Alonso (my first BJJ instructor). However, I'm pretty sure I'm going to now say no, due to my time...with work and school, I don't see the worth in me also only teaching a few times a month at this gym.
I'm going to start Kendo & Iaido because it's only 2 days a week, and it looks fun to me...not taking it to make me the "ultimate fighter," just because I've always wanted to take up sword arts since I was a boy.
I feel that I know enough, and what I need to do to make myself better as a fighter, instructor, and a Man. My glass isn't full, I just have more than enough material to work with, as it is. If my goals were still to be a competitive fighter, I would be under a coach. I will be working with one fighter for a Kickboxing/MMA/Muay Thai fight(s) down the road...already turned down a MMA fight for him due to scheduling of another event I've had planned for him.
Anyhow, do what makes you happy.
Osu!
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Post by gimptron on Jan 7, 2013 11:52:45 GMT -5
I'm going to start Kendo & Iaido because it's only 2 days a week, and it looks fun to me...not taking it to make me the "ultimate fighter," just because I've always wanted to take up sword arts since I was a boy. You will be the Ultimate Samurai.  |
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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 8, 2013 23:13:19 GMT -5
I'm going to start Kendo & Iaido because it's only 2 days a week, and it looks fun to me...not taking it to make me the "ultimate fighter," just because I've always wanted to take up sword arts since I was a boy. You will be the Ultimate Samurai. hahahahahahahahahaha! Well played! Really made me laugh out loud! Osu! |
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Post by kyokanrik on Aug 16, 2014 13:58:44 GMT -5
I like events like Pro Karate in France, where they have takedowns but only for a few seconds and its mostly stand up. I think this can be popular. It really all comes down to money and who has the most to market the promotion. osu I never understood for the life of me why Pro Karate hasn't taken off on a broader scale. Especially here in the U.S. Maybe lack of exposure, along with everything you mentioned. But that, and K-1, always leave me scratching my head in regards to the lack of momentum the two carry today, respectively. For now, I guess it's all Glory and MMA, and when it comes to MMA, UFC pretty much has that market locked down. |
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Post by kyokanrik on Aug 17, 2014 13:45:48 GMT -5
My problem is watching ground fighting is not as exciting as Standup work.   |
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You're not training your guys primarily for the "sport jiu jitsu" side, like some instructors do, which is great. 
....I being one of those people.
