GJEC
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Post by GJEC on Dec 18, 2013 12:06:13 GMT -5
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Post by senshido on Dec 18, 2013 13:23:17 GMT -5
totally unprepared for what came at him!!
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Post by MMX on Dec 18, 2013 15:20:59 GMT -5
Uhh I hope he got paid well. Wow. It looks to me like he thought he was going to be able to get in close and pummel the Kickboxer but that did not happen...
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Post by GJEC on Dec 18, 2013 15:39:13 GMT -5
That's the thing isn't it? It makes me laugh when 'experts' put "kicks don't work" on their blog and people accept it. Why? Because their guru has said it so it must be true.
It's ability that counts.
Gary
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Post by meguro on Dec 19, 2013 3:39:53 GMT -5
With so much information available today, it makes you wonder if the boxer took the fight aware of the risks just for the pay-off. If it were a real contest, I would assume the boxer would have learned how to check a leg kick. For the promoters, what a bunch of sleezebags.
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Post by blacktiger on Dec 19, 2013 8:49:43 GMT -5
The Red Scorpion, one of my all time favourites of K-1
That's a learn to swim from the 20ft end of the swimming pool
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Post by GJEC on Dec 19, 2013 9:00:49 GMT -5
It's funny this. A friend of mine from a 'traditional' background sent me a PM on Facebook saying
"Shouldn't he be using the shin, not the foot for those low kicks?"
That pretty much sums up for me a lot of what's wrong with MA.
It worked! How it looks or if it was technically perfect comes a long way second!
Gary
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Post by wullie on Dec 19, 2013 19:31:13 GMT -5
Uhh I hope he got paid well. Wow. It looks to me like he thought he was going to be able to get in close and pummel the Kickboxer but that did not happen... when will they realise that legs are longer than arms
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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 4, 2014 14:40:53 GMT -5
With that being said, some years back I saw a skilled boxer KO a skilled Thaiboxer. The Thaiboxer tried to clinch and knee the boxer...boxer uppercutted his way out of the clinch, followed with a hook and the right cross for the KO. This boxer minutes before the fight asked my first MT instructor how he should prepare to fight out of the clinch and was just told to uppercut his way out. So, that goes to show that a skilled fighter doesn't need much time to come up with a plan (some times) . With that being said, I would be going for the legs on a boxer. For somebody that fights inside, I'd be clinching and kneeing...and headbutting (I don't compete anymore)..and follow up with a takedown to break their collar bone. Osu!
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Post by GJEC on Jan 4, 2014 15:00:53 GMT -5
With that being said, some years back I saw a skilled boxer KO a skilled Thaiboxer. The Thaiboxer tried to clinch and knee the boxer...boxer uppercutted his way out of the clinch, followed with a hook and the right cross for the KO. This boxer minutes before the fight asked my first MT instructor how he should prepare to fight out of the clinch and was just told to uppercut his way out. So, that goes to show that a skilled fighter doesn't need much time to come up with a plan (some times) . With that being said, I would be going for the legs on a boxer. For somebody that fights inside, I'd be clinching and kneeing...and headbutting (I don't compete anymore)..and follow up with a takedown to break their collar bone. Osu! I'm sure there's an answer to most things but preparation is the key. I posted this as I was amazed that the boxer didn't appear to understand what he was facing, much less have a plan. I'm in no way suggesting 'Thai fighters will always beat boxers' etc. Gary
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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 5, 2014 1:48:51 GMT -5
I reread what I wrote, and I feel as if I've contradicted myself a bit LOL. The bit about a skilled fighter doesn't need much time to come up with a plan. I am honestly a heavy proponent of being able to "know" an opponent that a fighter I'm coaching is going to fight. That way I can come up with a game plan, and hopefully have time to work on with who I'm coaching. However, in knockdown tournaments, you often times don't have this luxury...but in a kickboxing, k-1, MT fight, etc. you usually do have the luxury of watching some footage of your opponent. This is more what I meant in a skilled/experienced fighter not needing (or having) as much time to come up with a game plan. Very often, you have to try a few things, with an unknown fighter, to feel them out, to "figure" out a game plan on the go. The boxer I spoke about was somebody that had a good 12 years or so of solid boxing experience in the ring, winning 4 golden gloves championships, had a solid 5 years of pro boxing fights that KO'd this Thaiboxer. I'm also not saying Boxing or Thaiboxing is better It all depends on the Man or Woman, what they bring to the fight. Osu!
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