GJEC
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May 4, 2011 2:21:51 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on May 4, 2011 2:21:51 GMT -5
On another thread a member mentioned crying at the dojo. This isn't a male/female thing, I've seen people of both sexes get upset.
In normal training I will stop what they're doing and find out what's caused the problem. Injury may require stopping for first aid but anyone simply being dramatic just gets a smile and "get on with it"
In a test I'll ask the person if they want to continue, but at the same time encourage them to push through it. We're not dancers and in the outside world people (IME) don't let up if you get upset - far from it - so being able to turn excess emotion into action is something to be encouraged.
I'm interested in what others do ...
Gary
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wullie
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May 4, 2011 3:09:02 GMT -5
Post by wullie on May 4, 2011 3:09:02 GMT -5
Other than some of the kids having a bit of a cry the only other times i've seen people get a bit tearfull is at the end of a blackbelt grading. even fill up a bit myself then ;D
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GJEC
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May 4, 2011 3:12:59 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on May 4, 2011 3:12:59 GMT -5
LOL
I know what you mean.
I've never shown it but I always have nerves beforehand and a lump in my throat after.
Gary
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May 4, 2011 6:14:51 GMT -5
Post by walshy on May 4, 2011 6:14:51 GMT -5
LOL I know what you mean. I've never shown it but I always have nerves beforehand and a lump in my throat after. Gary Good to know people like you still get the nerves Gary, something i always have a battle with. Regarding tears, only really seen the juniors cry. Sometimes from a sparring knock etc or sometimes just through sheer adrenaline. In the latter they are encouraged to push on and as you say turn it too their advantage. Osu
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May 4, 2011 6:36:19 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on May 4, 2011 6:36:19 GMT -5
I don't think they ever go Walshy, you just get to recognise them and ignore them. As a novice I used to think I was the only one and cursed myself for my lack of backbone. I had two opponents, one to fight before I even got there (myself) and the one on the mat. Of the two, the one on the mat was far easier to deal with. It was a real relief when I spoke to others who fought at the same tournaments - often years later - and realised we ALL felt the same.
It was the same in the Fire Brigade and the same on the door. Feel the adrenaline. Recognise it. Use it. There's no courage without fear so just put your doubts aside and crack on. Once you get stuck in your nerves just evaporate.
Gary
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May 4, 2011 9:56:27 GMT -5
Post by Ros on May 4, 2011 9:56:27 GMT -5
I'm glad tears in the dojo haven't happened to me very often because it's very annoying and frustrating! Particularly when they are the result of an unexpected whack or takedown on the hard floor - even if it hasn't hurt my first reaction seems to be to want to cry. Shock I suppose but still very annoying (and girlie).
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May 4, 2011 10:09:20 GMT -5
Post by powerof0ne on May 4, 2011 10:09:20 GMT -5
Not sure if I ever cried in the dojo, maybe when I was a kid but I honestly don't remember. Not saying I never cried as a boy because I'd be full of crap to say I never did, especially after being whipped with a belt which I rightfully deserved.
I've only seen Men cry in the dojo a few times. One such Man did it so often he was given the name "cry baby" which I'm not sure was the right nick name to give him which btw he had before I came to train with him. Most if not all of the time I've seen Women cry it was definitely more mental then physical. Like Ros described, it appeared to be more of a sudden shock to them that triggered it.
With all of that being said in the last few years I've been prone to shed a tear when I read certain news articles around the world of all things. I'd rather be punched in the nose then to hear about a child that just lost both of his/her parents.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of my new students cry which would serve me right for saying I haven't seen it often... Osu!
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May 4, 2011 11:20:52 GMT -5
Post by MMX on May 4, 2011 11:20:52 GMT -5
We had a promotion test the other day and one of the juniors started crying during kumite as he got taken down with an ura-nage. It was really just shock. He kept going though! Tough kid.
I think had it seemed that he was hurt, Sensei would have stopped.
Osu!
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May 6, 2011 7:38:26 GMT -5
Post by fatjoe on May 6, 2011 7:38:26 GMT -5
We had a guy years ago (27 to be exact) who had a mental breakdown during grading. There was no consoling him but he kept asking for help........The next thing you know half the people in the dojo were crying with him!!!!! We all new he was a little nervous and his wife was a real piece of work, don't remember what his job was but the guy was really nice, and didnt mind bringing sliced oranges to class all the time.
Anyway a few of the parents escorted the guy out of the place and grading resumed, but it was different after seeing the water works!! Kinda funny now that the issue has been brought up!
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May 6, 2011 14:26:03 GMT -5
Post by senshido on May 6, 2011 14:26:03 GMT -5
While having never cried while training in the dojo, I will openly admit to getting emotional at dan gradings, even my own 1st dan... thats me on the left of the picture with my 2 club mates, we all did our 1st dans on the same day in Denmark
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May 8, 2011 13:07:11 GMT -5
Post by evergrey on May 8, 2011 13:07:11 GMT -5
I made a classmate cry on Thursday, drilling uraken to the chest. Felt really bad about it- I could tell it was getting to be too much for him- he's a teenager- so I lightened up. Was told "he can't even feel that! It's a tickle to him, strike harder!" so I did, and he cried. I felt lower than low about it. Me, I've cried because of unrelated to the dojo things, because the dojo is my safe place. Sometimes before or after class, stuff comes out. Cried in the car after my first ranking, oh that was rough, emotionally. Don't think I've cried in class yet, but speaking as a crazy person, it'll likely happen.
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