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Post by hokuto12 on Jan 19, 2014 3:28:52 GMT -5
Also just got told that authors are referred to as sensei as well.
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Post by blacktiger on Jan 28, 2014 10:24:39 GMT -5
Wikipedia just has it stated as senior Instructor so in theory I am a Shihan as noone is senior to me in my Dojo and independent from NIKO or a Honbu.
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Post by MMX on Jan 28, 2014 10:58:09 GMT -5
I see it as an honorary title. If you have been a Sensei for many years and have gotten 5th Dan and above you may be honored with the title of Shihan by the founder/leader of that style. A recognition of your hard work not only in your own training but more in the helping to train others.
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Post by blacktiger on Jan 28, 2014 11:35:54 GMT -5
I agree, but I personally would feel "awkward" being called "Shihan" as "Sensei" is part of me i could be busy doing something and my wife shouts Ken to no avail, but as soon as she shouts "Sensei" I respond immediately
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Post by GJEC on Jan 28, 2014 12:03:40 GMT -5
The title should be awarded to recognise excellence, either in personal ability or in coaching.
Gary
PS Ken - really?
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Post by blacktiger on Jan 29, 2014 6:28:46 GMT -5
The title should be awarded to recognise excellence, either in personal ability or in coaching. Gary PS Ken - really? Yes, but only now and again, I think its my age - going deaf. She took the P155 out of me for the whole day on the last occasion that she shouted "Sensei!" Me have the Title of Shihan, I think Gary, You'll be Hanshi Gary before that. |
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Post by GJEC on Jan 29, 2014 8:02:39 GMT -5
LOL I'll be long dead before then with no title on my headstone.
Gary
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Post by hokuto12 on Feb 5, 2014 20:12:07 GMT -5
I agree, but I personally would feel "awkward" being called "Shihan" as "Sensei" is part of me i could be busy doing something and my wife shouts Ken to no avail, but as soon as she shouts "Sensei" I respond immediately I have the same problem my wife will call out to me and if I don't respond she will then call out a bunch of different names none of them are the names I want to be called. |
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Post by shugyo on Oct 6, 2015 11:24:27 GMT -5
Titles, imho, have meaning within said governing bodies, formality wise. But, on the floor, I'm Bob!! I want to teach, and in that, I've not the time or the inclination to being called Sensei or any other name, even if it's done in a respectful manner. Formality is fine, but appropriate context should be leashed. Otherwise, ego really gets in the way of meaningful training/learning!!  |
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Post by powerof0ne on Nov 2, 2015 10:15:20 GMT -5
Coming back to this article later; after a couple cups of coffee I more or less feel like this about the "shihan" title. If you are of a school that has very few students, and very few to no black belts (never had them to begin with) then the title of shihan is silly to me. When somebody is a shihan, there should be no doubt that they're a shihan by any sane-legitimate black belt. To be a shihan means you've had students get to black belt that have competed outside your dojo, had their own students, they've had students make it to black belt and so forth. If you're a shihan and nobody outside your "small world" closed dojo knows of you, it's very difficult for me to believe you're a legitimate shihan. Sure, there might be exceptions to this but EXCEPTIONS are rare. I know of many fake instructors that have the title of shihan, renshi, and so forth. I would love nothing more but to do dojo yaburi on these schmucks but I would be in a lot of legal trouble. Even though, I'm practically half crippled with arthritis I can stay on my feet for more than enough time needed to deal with such garbage. My back usually doesn't start locking up until 25-40 minutes . Osu! |
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Post by GJEC on Nov 3, 2015 9:40:51 GMT -5
I think the Enshin definition is on the money.
"A teacher of high grade who trains other teachers"
I see lots now with the title that don't qualify by personal ability but by a great coaching record. Some others have tremendous ability but are still - to my mind - a bit too focussed on their reputation rather than their legacy.
Gary
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Post by meguro on Nov 3, 2015 15:57:29 GMT -5
Like belts, the title business is over done. Why is it that when you see a doctor, even though he may be giving you a liver transplant or prescribing acne medication it's just plain old Dr. Renshi, hanshi, shihan, saiko shihan ( I laughed to myself the first time I heard saiko shihan because saiko shihan was intimidating. . .almost psycho like), it gets too confusing. Maybe job titles would be better: branch manager; regional manager; country rep.
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Post by MMX on Nov 3, 2015 16:58:21 GMT -5
I prefer Coach but due to being in a Japanese style I will have to use their titles.
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Post by GJEC on Nov 27, 2015 13:03:45 GMT -5
All titles lose a bit of credibility once they become commonplace.
I laughed out loud yesterday seeing a Facebook post from a "Kancho" who only a couple of years ago was a 2nd Dan in a small group.
Why do people self promote? Even worse, why do they believe it means something if half a dozen clubs decide to award them the most prestigious title in MA?
Deluded.
Gary
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