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Post by seattle on Oct 10, 2011 1:55:57 GMT -5
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Post by gotapex on Oct 10, 2011 4:40:39 GMT -5
We have a few from Yamaki Karate that are planning to head up to that.
From what I understand though, KD still requires headgear, shin/instep pad, gloves, mouthpiece, and cup (for men).
You have some fighters joining?
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Post by yoshukai on Oct 10, 2011 12:11:50 GMT -5
It is my understanding that knee kicks are not allowed in the knockdown division at this tourney.
gotapex, will Toshiki Sensei be fighting in this event? How did he do in the New York tournament?
Osu!
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Post by powerof0ne on Oct 10, 2011 12:20:04 GMT -5
No hiza geri?
I found it weird that a dojo that seems to specialize in USANKF, AAU, "WKF" style point fighting was hosting knockdown..now I get it. It's not exactly knockdown kumite, but so they can hop on some small bandwagon and say they have fighters that fight knockdown? Going on their website I see mention how practitioners at that school do well in knockdown tournaments, yet they don't mention the names of what knockdown tournaments....
Osu!
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Post by yoshukai on Oct 10, 2011 12:56:14 GMT -5
They seem to be a traditional Okinawan Shorin Ryu school. The apparently hold a full contact tournament in Okinawa every year and are members of an Okinawan full contact karate association. It is a weird to not allow hiza geri in the knockdown comp...
Osu!
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Post by powerof0ne on Oct 10, 2011 13:53:35 GMT -5
They seem to be a traditional Okinawan Shorin Ryu school. The apparently hold a full contact tournament in Okinawa every year and are members of an Okinawan full contact karate association. It is a weird to not allow hiza geri in the knockdown comp... Osu! I've seen "Okinawan Kickboxing" and now "Okinawan full contact" appear in the last 3-5 years. The O. Kickboxing was more or less K-1 rules, and I doubt it's been done more then 10 years. I would be willing to bet these tournaments haven't been held by that Shorin ryu association that long but maybe I'm just a cynic. Osu! |
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Post by ironcastknight on Oct 10, 2011 16:43:14 GMT -5
I want to fight in it. I don't even care if it's sorta knockdown but not, as Shorin-Ryu and other Okinawan styles need to spar and compete more.
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Post by gotapex on Oct 10, 2011 17:13:47 GMT -5
Hmm, no knee kicks either? Toshiki Sensei is planning to fight in this event. He was beaten by his second opponent in Rochester.  |
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Post by seattle on Oct 10, 2011 17:34:54 GMT -5
I am considering going to this tournament. I have some friends in the area, good excuse to go visit.
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Post by powerof0ne on Oct 10, 2011 22:54:43 GMT -5
I am considering going to this tournament. I have some friends in the area, good excuse to go visit. Let me know how it goes, I already don't like the idea of wearing all that gear and no hiza geri makes me cringe. Osu! |
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Post by seattle on Oct 11, 2011 9:12:46 GMT -5
I got an email from the organizer, they may change the shin guard requirement, as optional but keep the rest. Gloves no palm bars.
The hiza geri doesn't bother me to much, as I don't use them that frequently. Although, if fighting when not allowed I probably would end up using them all the time. ;D
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Post by powerof0ne on Oct 11, 2011 14:24:19 GMT -5
The no palm bars makes sense but why even have gloves and head guards? To me, it's semi-semi knockdown, not knockdown. The gear sounds more necessary due to their own students fighting...every other knockdown tournament I know if is almost identical rules, except for the Sabaki tournaments and the few shidokan knockdown tournaments. A bit off topic, Seattle, but I heard last year Shihan Adams allowed full clinch while kneeing, just not with the fingers inter-locked? This is how I teach to clinch already, is this allowed or not? I figured it wouldn't be allowed. I could be wrong in what I heard, I heard it through somebody else  . I'm liking Shihan Adams stand on trying to allow more back into knockdown and the "ring style" fights.. Osu! |
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Post by gotapex on Oct 11, 2011 16:01:07 GMT -5
I got an email from the organizer, they may change the shin guard requirement, as optional but keep the rest. Gloves no palm bars. Please keep us informed about changes. We haven't even picked up the gear yet, and would like to avoid doing so if it becomes unnecessary. |
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Post by seattle on Oct 12, 2011 23:30:57 GMT -5
A bit off topic, Seattle, but I heard last year Shihan Adams allowed full clinch while kneeing, just not with the fingers inter-locked? This is how I teach to clinch already, is this allowed or not? I figured it wouldn't be allowed. I could be wrong in what I heard, I heard it through somebody else . I'm liking Shihan Adams stand on trying to allow more back into knockdown and the "ring style" fights.. Osu! I can't give you a clear answer, as the rules have not been codified. (I have asked) Sometimes they slightly change from year to year. |
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Post by seattle on Oct 12, 2011 23:35:16 GMT -5
I got an email from the organizer, they may change the shin guard requirement, as optional but keep the rest. Gloves no palm bars. Please keep us informed about changes. We haven't even picked up the gear yet, and would like to avoid doing so if it becomes unnecessary. This is the response I got from them, I asked for clarification about gloves. I have followed up for final determination regarding the shin guards. " Yes, most fighters wear mma style gloves, or the cloth covered karate fist covers. We don't allow fighters to wear cloth boxer's wraps, or boxer's tape to strengthen hand and wrist. We also don't allow punching bag gloves that have any bar or grip in the hand. No brands in particular.
All divisions must wear head protection, and hand guards.
One point is still under discussion: The advanced knockdown divisions may be able to wear shin/instep protectors as an option, but not mandatory. For Semi knockdown, the shin instep protector will be mandatory." |
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. I'm liking Shihan Adams stand on trying to allow more back into knockdown and the "ring style" fights..