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Post by powerof0ne on Oct 21, 2011 21:01:59 GMT -5
Shuto uke, the linear version, not shuto mawashi uke, any of you like it and use it?
I'd rather just punch somebody instead but what do some of you actually use it for? Do you like it or not?
I definitely prefer the shuto mawashi uke.
Osu!
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Post by senshido on Oct 22, 2011 3:20:50 GMT -5
I use both.
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Post by noahh on Oct 22, 2011 6:23:59 GMT -5
Osu!
Not sure I'm on the same page here, so excuse me if I'm off on a tangent.
I regularly use and teach shuto geidan bari, just as a varient to the traditional seiken, generally as a defence to Mae geri
Shuto soto uke, turning in the shuto into the forearm or elbow joint. Kote works just as well when blocking the outside of the elbow but I like the shuto when blocking inside.
Use Shuto Uchi uke as a varient to Kake uke at head height, but prefer the kake form.
Quite like a shuto juju uke as a set up for shuto uchi uchi to the neck, as a defence to a hook punch.
Love Shuto mawashi uke as a concept, have rarely pulled it off in kumite.
Osu!
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Post by powerof0ne on Oct 22, 2011 11:25:42 GMT -5
Osu! Not sure I'm on the same page here, so excuse me if I'm off on a tangent. I regularly use and teach shuto geidan bari, just as a varient to the traditional seiken, generally as a defence to Mae geri Shuto soto uke, turning in the shuto into the forearm or elbow joint. Kote works just as well when blocking the outside of the elbow but I like the shuto when blocking inside. Use Shuto Uchi uke as a varient to Kake uke at head height, but prefer the kake form. Quite like a shuto juju uke as a set up for shuto uchi uchi to the neck, as a defence to a hook punch. Love Shuto mawashi uke as a concept, have rarely pulled it off in kumite. Osu! Using the shuto variations on the other blocks is something I do, too. I can and have made shuto mawashi uke work in kumite but at times feel the more linear straight shuto uke is a waste of time. However, I do both, and teach both because I feel that maybe one of my students will be able to make it work. Maybe it's the years of Muay Thai I did, has me thinking I'll just throw a lead hook or overhand left instead  . The one strike I love that is "open handed" is haito uchi (ridge hand). I can generate a lot of power, more so than any punch I can throw.... Straight linear shuto uke just doesn't feel half as strong or effective. Maybe it's just me . Osu! |
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Post by seattle on Oct 22, 2011 16:51:04 GMT -5
I think you are referring to something we call shuto sokutsu uchi komi - driving strike to collar bone. I use that on occasion, basically in the way described, straight in at the neck/collar bone. Sometimes as a primary strike, but also as a strike to set up another technique, such as mawashi geri or shita tsuki.
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Post by noahh on Oct 22, 2011 20:21:35 GMT -5
Osu
I use shuto Sokutsu Uchi Komi quite a bit when close in, mostly as a defence to kicks, hitting the shoulder on the same side as the kicking leg, prevents the follow through of the hip and ruins the kick. Guess that puts in the realm of a block. Certainly can't generate the power I can with a punch.
Osu, PO1 have I also enjoy the Haito uchi as a power tachnique, sort of the mawashi geri of the upper limbs.
One of my frirst instructors held to the philosophy if you are not comfortable doing a press up on a hand formation, your mad to try an impact technique with it. I some times wonder if the power we generate is at least in part influenced by the confidence in the hand formation?
Osu.
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Post by powerof0ne on Oct 22, 2011 21:49:46 GMT -5
I think you are referring to something we call shuto sokutsu uchi komi - driving strike to collar bone. I use that on occasion, basically in the way described, straight in at the neck/collar bone. Sometimes as a primary strike, but also as a strike to set up another technique, such as mawashi geri or shita tsuki. I might be, if I can find a decent video, I'll post it. I just remember in my shito and goju ryu days it was called "shuto uke" when done linear and wasn't corrected when I converted to knockdown (chokushin/kyokushin). I also agree with you about the strong hand formation Nooah, but for me this isn't why I don't like the technique. I can do it, but just have much stronger hand/fist techniques I'd rather use...maybe I'm just neglecting it because of this? I agree with the analogy that it's sort of the mawashi geri of our hands . I've been taught about 3 different ways to do it...one way where you almost perform it like a straight tsuki, another way where you wind back and follow through, and the last way which is sort of a combination of the two. Osu! |
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Post by senshido on Oct 23, 2011 9:32:26 GMT -5
I use a block called Shuto Uchi Uke... imagine shuto yoko uchi (sometimes called shuto uchi uchi) with the elbow kept low and you will be close to this block, its kind of like a shuto chudan uchi uke, but it comes from the ear instead of under the arm... let me know if I'm not making sense and I will take some video of me doing it
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Post by powerof0ne on Oct 23, 2011 12:28:14 GMT -5
I use a block called Shuto Uchi Uke... imagine shuto yoko uchi (sometimes called shuto uchi uchi) with the elbow kept low and you will be close to this block, its kind of like a shuto chudan uchi uke, but it comes from the ear instead of under the arm... let me know if I'm not making sense and I will take some video of me doing it Coming from the ear is what I call "shuto uke." Probably the same exact technique. Osu! |
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Post by senshido on Oct 26, 2011 6:37:51 GMT -5
sounds like it
Osu!
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