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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 29, 2012 15:54:42 GMT -5
Something I've been experimenting with the last 3 months or so is not taking an active role in kumite like I was with my students.
What I mean is, laying off doing kumite with them and instead watching them all do kumite and give them tips while they do kumite.
My reason for doing this is, I got the feeling too many of them were playing it "too safe" not really going for it with each other, because with me, I'd counter everything they'd throw at me, not hard, mind you, but I'd counter it, which I believe frustrated them.
The end result is in the past month I've really noticed a positive change with all of them. I've seen them all progress and really start to apply what I've been teaching them more so then I did when I was actively doing kumite with them.
Now, this doesn't mean I will stop completely, I definitely will for at least one round for everyone I grade and every once in a while. Just not every kumite session as I was.
I'm not 100% sure this is the reason they've all progressed, but if not, it's one hell of a coincidence!
Osu!
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Post by GJEC on Jan 30, 2012 6:15:45 GMT -5
There comes a time in everyone's coaching path where they decide they're there for their students, not for themselves.
IMO If an instructor is being paid to coach, their charges want to improve, not to be impressed. Of course, if the instructor is still competing / testing the high grades are usually more than happy to return the help.
My decision - a few years ago - to stop sparring and training like a lunatic improved my coaching ability and did not diminish my respect in the dojo.
Gary
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Post by hangtime on Jan 30, 2012 10:56:46 GMT -5
I think there is something to that. Mostly due to numbers, I find that I'm coaching/timekeeping/encouraging/etc. Students respond to their environment, that's my belief.
When you get back in, they won't be as hesitant with you; they'll know what works for them and they tend to be more confident in what they're doing...at least that's my experience.
OSU!
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Post by wullie on Jan 30, 2012 12:26:08 GMT -5
i don't take part in training but do usually join in with the sparring, after what i put them through the students don't hold back lol! ;D
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Post by MMX on Jan 30, 2012 12:32:32 GMT -5
I tend to dial it into who I am sparring.
My sparring with the white,blue,green,etc is all very different with the guys who are 1st Kyu or higher.
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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 30, 2012 22:03:04 GMT -5
I never "beat up" on my students, at least, not intentionally. What I mean is, I'm very careful of how hard I hit them and I usually feel bad when I even sweep them to the ground and apologize immediately...partially because we typically do kumite on a hardwood dance floor (we use a dance class's room)!
Part of this experiment of mine has to do with some of the best instructors I ever trained under never did any sparring. What they did was study you sparring, and then tell you how to improve, what you're doing wrong, show you new techniques, etc...and lot of pad work. Vos gym and Mejiro gym in Holland, are two of the most successful Muay Thai and Kickboxing gyms in Holland (Ernesto Hoost, Rob Kaman, Peter Aerts, and Remy Bonjasky come from these gyms) do very little sparring, even!
They do lots of intelligent pad work and drills, instead!
However, I do believe that somebody starting out needs a significant amount of sparring to gain the experience in distance, timing, and so forth. I hope this makes any sense, I know I don't have any science to back this up but just my own experience and trying to figure it all out.
I believe once you get to a certain level, you don't need to spar as much anymore, as long as you're doing bag work, pad work, drills, and have good fitness.
Osu!
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Post by seattle on Jan 30, 2012 22:59:57 GMT -5
In my class I still work along side my students. Lead by example, I pay attention to what they are doing ough. If kihon for example, I will either work 1 on 1 or make a general observation about techniques for all. In kumite class it is very similar, I work mostly along side, if there is odd numbers I sit out in drills. When sparing we do a round robin, I vary on how much I work to keep the upper hand vs letting them get in techniques. If I weren't still competing I would probably work less and observe more. I do give plenty of coaching and fortunately have a very good assistant instructor.
Currently though I have mostly 1+ year experienced students. Recruiting.has been tough lately.
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Post by MMX on Jan 31, 2012 11:09:03 GMT -5
Currently though I have mostly 1+ year experienced students. Recruiting.has been tough lately. Same situation here. We get a few new prospects but they are driven away by sweat and hard work... |
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Post by amphinon on Aug 16, 2012 19:01:17 GMT -5
I do this often. I find that the focus when I am watching is applying the lessons learned versus 'trying to beat sensei'. I will still spar against each and everyone of them but only a couple each class. The rest need to wait and learn.
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