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Post by powerof0ne on Jul 21, 2012 14:38:27 GMT -5
As many of you probably already know, in Aurora, Colorado, at least 12 people were killed, and many more were injured by a mad man during the new Batman movie.
I have seen movies in the same exact theater a couple of times, and was watching the movie that night. My heart holds a special place for Colorado, I almost ended up staying there after I got out of the Army, and still consider possibly moving back some day.
I won't lament on the why this sick bastard did what he did, I don't care why. I do care that our judicial system and "public mood" in the Western hemisphere is too damn politically correct, meaning, that this man will probably be institutionalized for life, instead of executed. This man killed at least one child who was only 6 years old!
I saw a Father walking around the high school with a picture of his 27 year old son, who by the way, was celebrating his 27th birthday that happened to be during the Batman movie. Finally, the father found out that his son was among the dead, his son that also leaves behind a wife.
I suppose I'm posting this as a way to vent, and like most of you, if not all of you, I am beyond angry that at least one child was killed.
Over here in the USA, as far as I know, no movie theater allows you to bring in a firearm legally, even if you have a CPL/CCW. Meaning, don't use the argument that this could have been stopped if one person had a gun on them. As some of you know, I carry, and I considered having my gun on me during this movie but after research found out that no, it's not legal, and I don't like leaving my firearm in my truck (even with a car safe).
There maybe no point in posting this, but I feel like this cowardly piece of shit should be executed, not institutionalized. When a rabid animal attacks a human, we put it down. Why should tax payer's money be used to institutionalize this piece of shit, why? Would any of you feel safe if this man was "rehabilitated?" No, neither would I, who in their right mind would? There is no logical reason to institutionalize somebody so evil, there really isn't.
My condolences and thoughts with the victims and the families that are enduring this vile act of humanity.
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Post by GJEC on Jul 21, 2012 15:25:23 GMT -5
I find this kind of thing very hard to understand. I've seen a lot of stupidity in my life, often ending up causing grievous injury to the innocent, but this just defies belief.
Put him down.
Gary
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Post by powerof0ne on Jul 21, 2012 16:33:14 GMT -5
I must add, that it's not technically illegal to carry a weapon in a movie theater (as long as you have the legal right to do so), but that most movie theaters prohibit it. This movie theater where this happened was one of those that prohibits it. Meaning that even though there was probably people in the audience that own guns, and have their CPL/CCW, they were following the rules, not bringing it inside.
With that being said, out of respect to the victims and families of victims, please don't bring up this could have been avoided if somebody had a gun.
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Post by meguro on Jul 22, 2012 21:44:21 GMT -5
Only right minded folks worry about legality and consequences. Psychopaths and criminals, often the same thing, don't. So the question is, how do you keep weapons out of the hands of psychos and criminals? Can you? It seems to me that what is missing is a public health policy aimed at identifying the headcases before they cause some tragedy.
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Post by hokuto12 on Jul 23, 2012 4:41:46 GMT -5
Not to mention all the traps he had set up waiting for the first responders to turn up and set them off. Lucky some of them whereswitched on.
Maybe the whole right to bear arms should be looked at. I am sure that would open up a big can of worms.
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Post by MMX on Jul 23, 2012 11:24:48 GMT -5
Only right minded folks worry about legality and consequences. Psychopaths and criminals, often the same thing, don't. So the question is, how do you keep weapons out of the hands of psychos and criminals? Can you? It seems to me that what is missing is a public health policy aimed at identifying the headcases before they cause some tragedy. Yeah that would be the best case scenario. Terrible stuff. |
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Post by powerof0ne on Jul 23, 2012 22:07:42 GMT -5
Perhaps there should be stricter restrictions set on how much ammo an individual could buy for themselves in a set amount of time. The problem is that there really isn't, there are ways where I could easily go buy thousands of rounds of ammo from different sources online without anything happening to me. Only after the fact, could authorities see that I bought a lot of ammo...
I bought 1000 rounds a while back, all at once, to save money, I have 700 something rounds left, and will probably use 300-400 of that in September on a camping trip/shooting practice.
In the next couple of years I will be done buying firearms for many years to come.
What I'm getting at in a roundabout way, there should be restrictions on how much ammo one individual can buy, and how perhaps how many firearms, too. I know the latter definitely opens up a huge can of worms. I do know that if you start buying a lot of firearms you will be "restricted" and have to wait, I've seen this happen to somebody before who did nothing wrong, he just bought a lot of firearms the legal way, and on his last background check "they" told him he had to wait 6 months before his next purchase...but with ammo, none of this happens, no background check is done on you to buy ammo in the USA! Obviously, this needs to change, because if an ex con bought ammo, that should be a huge warning sign right there, since an ex con shouldn't have a fire arm to shoot! Of course, this wouldn't have stopped this recent tragedy.
Osu!
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Post by evergrey on Jul 23, 2012 23:11:25 GMT -5
I agree that he should be put down.
It's crazy that people are just calling him a "suspect." Really?
Some people bring up that if he were of a different ethnicity, they would call him a gunman or a murderer or something, instead of a suspect. I don't know, heh! I just think that it's a stupid use of a technicality with a scumbag like that.
Obviously he's a really sick individual but to do something like that... I think he's lost his right to be a part of this world.
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Post by wullie on Jul 24, 2012 16:02:21 GMT -5
over here there is a restriction on how much hunting (expanding) ammo you can buy/possess at any one time BUT there is no restriction on how many FMJ rounds you can buy/possess, any hunting ammo i buy gets written on to my firearms licence. Because i'm a re-loader i'm allowed to but 100 expanding rounds/bullets and possess 120, this is because the bullets (not the complete factory made rounds) are sold in boxes of 100
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Post by meguro on Jul 25, 2012 8:08:50 GMT -5
Reloading puts a small wrinkle in the ammo situation. I'd be fine living next to a sane, law-abiding neighbor with a secure arsenal. However, all it takes is one crank on the block with an agenda.
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Post by powerof0ne on Jul 25, 2012 22:06:23 GMT -5
over here there is a restriction on how much hunting (expanding) ammo you can buy/possess at any one time BUT there is no restriction on how many FMJ rounds you can buy/possess, any hunting ammo i buy gets written on to my firearms licence. Because i'm a re-loader i'm allowed to but 100 expanding rounds/bullets and possess 120, this is because the bullets (not the complete factory made rounds) are sold in boxes of 100 LOL, should be the other way around! Guess they care more about somebody being able to hunt too much game then how many humans they kill. Osu! |
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Post by fatjoe on Jul 26, 2012 13:21:55 GMT -5
My view of this situation is a bit different. There was a not job...with guns and ammo.....instead of the government, it was an individual......this happens from time to time, but not only in the USA. My issue is one of security on behalf of the theater.
How does someone slip out an emergency exit door with out an alert and then no alarm when he re-enters......likewise, he purportedly left a card in the door to enable him to get back in.......again, where was the damn alarm.
Now, some of you may have played around when you were younger, back when there was much less "extra" income, and one person would pay the fee to get in the theater while your friends would wait by the side exit......then they would open it and everyone would sneak in......unless caught and banned from that theater. Those days ended many years ago with "alarmed" doors and theater security in many places.
I can not fathom how this fool got into the theater!! Nevermind how many bullets, fire arms he had, that point is really mute.....a few IEDs would have done more damage and easier to conceal....this to me is a question of security and liability of the theater.
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Post by Ros on Jul 27, 2012 2:14:57 GMT -5
I can not fathom how this fool got into the theater!! Nevermind how many bullets, fire arms he had, that point is really mute..... Mmm, is it a moot point though? I assume he already knew the doors weren't alarmed and that he could get back in - I'm guessing from a prior test - if he had discovered that this wasn't the case then isn't it likely that he would have just picked a different venue? |
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