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Post by powerof0ne on Mar 9, 2011 18:27:32 GMT -5
Easiest explanation to avoid being swept is to plant a solid stance and not give your opponent a "blind side" (get in back of you or at a 35-65 angle behind you to sweep you). However, whenever you move, kick, or punch you're always giving an opportunity to be swept, just have to know when to set your stance or get out of the way of being swept.
Being taken down or thrown really depends on a lot of variables but the easiest way for a lot of take down attempts you see in MMA I would say is to sprawl. Of course this won't work for every throw and take down but it does for a lot of them.
There is a lot more to be said for defense against being swept and taken down but I almost think that would be a book or half of a book's worth of information. Osu!
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Post by MMX on Mar 9, 2011 18:28:33 GMT -5
I generally can't throw them, not had a lot of practice to be fair, in the stand up stuff I've done they've not been used and in JJ I did years ago they were done very differently. So alternative question, best defense against being swept... apart from lightning speed obviously Depends on the sweep but if they are going for your front leg just pick it up and when then go for the sweep follow their leg with Gedan Mawashi Geri.
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Post by yoshukai on Mar 9, 2011 18:31:06 GMT -5
Ashi bari is one of my favorite techniques. I usually like to use it against mid/high mawashigeri. It takes a lot of experimenting to get to where you can recognize when to really go for the sweep.
fatjoe said it pretty good. Sometimes when I am really looking to sweep I tend to just stand there and take punishment until the opening presents itself. When I do this, I am concentrating more on the sweep and less on the entire fight.
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Post by powerof0ne on Mar 9, 2011 18:36:32 GMT -5
Ashi bari is one of my favorite techniques. I usually like to use it against mid/high mawashigeri. It takes a lot of experimenting to get to where you can recognize when to really go for the sweep. fatjoe said it pretty good. Sometimes when I am really looking to sweep I tend to just stand there and take punishment until the opening presents itself. When I do this, I am concentrating more on the sweep and less on the entire fight. I didn't notice Joe saying that but I agree with both of you. I sometimes get in this mindset, too and do a lot with beginner students so I can give them a chance to work some things on me only to show them they still have some room to improve . Osu!
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Post by MMX on Mar 9, 2011 18:36:42 GMT -5
Sometimes it is all you need to turn it around.
Osu!
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Post by hangtime on Mar 10, 2011 10:30:32 GMT -5
Ashi bari is one of my favorite techniques. I usually like to use it against mid/high mawashigeri. It takes a lot of experimenting to get to where you can recognize when to really go for the sweep. When yoshukai goes for ashi barai, it's like poetry in motion; very smooth. I'd say it looks reactionary, but it's even better than that. Sometimes when I am really looking to sweep I tend to just stand there and take punishment until the opening presents itself. When I do this, I am concentrating more on the sweep and less on the entire fight. This is my issue; once I get it in my head that I'm going to sweep someone, I get focused on he sweep and other objectives get lost in the shuffle. I also have a tendency to get a little cocky, but I also get it in my head that I can just sweep both legs out from under my opponent. Not all bad because it does make for one heck of a gedan mawashi geri. OSU!
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Post by yoshukai on Jun 11, 2011 16:56:35 GMT -5
Just curious as to which of your organizations actually count sweeps with a follow up as wazaari? I know that Enshin counts sweeps individually and sweeps with controlled punches as points.
We used to see sweeps a lot more in competition when they were awarded wazaari. In most Kyokushin tournaments we see now, sweeps are not awarded wazaari. I think this is one reason that we do not see people going for them.
Osu!
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Post by senshido on Jun 11, 2011 18:22:19 GMT -5
Just curious as to which of your organizations actually count sweeps with a follow up as wazaari? I know that Enshin counts sweeps individually and sweeps with controlled punches as points. We used to see sweeps a lot more in competition when they were awarded wazaari. In most Kyokushin tournaments we see now, sweeps are not awarded wazaari. I think this is one reason that we do not see people going for them. Osu! All the UK orgs that I know of count a sweep with instant follow up as wazari
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Post by yoshukai on Jun 11, 2011 19:11:22 GMT -5
Just curious as to which of your organizations actually count sweeps with a follow up as wazaari? I know that Enshin counts sweeps individually and sweeps with controlled punches as points. We used to see sweeps a lot more in competition when they were awarded wazaari. In most Kyokushin tournaments we see now, sweeps are not awarded wazaari. I think this is one reason that we do not see people going for them. Osu! All the UK orgs that I know of count a sweep with instant follow up as wazari Thanks Senshido. Yoshukai also counts sweeps with follow up as wazaari. Sometimes it can get confusing though. A lot of our judges can't tell the difference between and trip and a good clean sweep. They tend to get caught up in the moment and when someone touches the ground they go ape s**t and try to give wazaari. Osu
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Post by senshido on Jun 12, 2011 3:40:29 GMT -5
All the UK orgs that I know of count a sweep with instant follow up as wazari Thanks Senshido. Yoshukai also counts sweeps with follow up as wazaari. Sometimes it can get confusing though. A lot of our judges can't tell the difference between and trip and a good clean sweep. They tend to get caught up in the moment and when someone touches the ground they go ape s**t and try to give wazaari. Osu I tend not to give them unless they are very good and very clear, messy take downs will not score with me
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Post by residentrenzo on Dec 13, 2013 15:03:41 GMT -5
At one of my past gradings my Sensei told me: "I want you to do 2 succesfully sweeps" We didn't trained those that much so I couldn't pull it off. Even worse, I kept trying sweeping them the exact same way (no setup strategy) so even white belts saw it coming. I'll never get Ashi Barai unless I learn and drill it thoroughly. Still can't do high and fast mawashi geri, I'm a little better with front kicks like mae or yoko geri. And very painful my outer left thigh still hurts from one of those that I got last week's grading. Peace! Renzo.
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Post by meguro on Dec 14, 2013 6:27:14 GMT -5
It's a lot easier to sweep when you can grab your opponent, and easier still if you can grab, punch and then sweep.
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Post by GJEC on Dec 14, 2013 14:17:51 GMT -5
It's a lot easier to sweep when you can grab your opponent, and easier still if you can grab, punch and then sweep. Good reason to join Enshin meguro! Gary
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Post by meguro on Dec 14, 2013 17:27:57 GMT -5
You know Gary, when I was practicing Kyokushin I had blinders on. Once I started to explore, I was game to try anything. If I had to do it over again, I'm sure I would have loved Enshin.
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Post by residentrenzo on Dec 15, 2013 10:08:41 GMT -5
Enshin looks like something I'd really enjoy. Too bad nearest SA branch is in Peru
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