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Post by GJEC on Feb 10, 2014 9:24:16 GMT -5
Footwork is something a lot of fighters don't understand. They all want to throw bombs and knock people over, or failing that they want to outwork the opponent and win by decision, often taking slightly less of a pasting than their opponent and carrying injuries or tiredness into the following rounds. But there is another way to win on decisions and it's a really simple principle. So simple in fact people ignore it ... I'll post more later but in the meantime feel free to post questions. Gary PS Simple, not easy. But worth practising
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Post by MMX on Feb 10, 2014 11:03:59 GMT -5
I had 2 wrong feet when I started. Much better now.
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Testing the waters. Thanks for the forum MMX!
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Post by curlbroscience on Feb 10, 2014 14:53:08 GMT -5
I remember the post about impact on K4L and that one really opened my eyes to the quality over quantity of output.
As a small guy you grasp the idea of distance timing and footwork through the sink or swim method. Not fun going 'all guns blazing' especially when a bit of movement mitigates some of the damage. I'll take every tidbit of information about footwork to make myself more effective.
Looking forward to your post.
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Post by GJEC on Feb 10, 2014 15:25:00 GMT -5
Got to photograph some diagrams as I wrote a lengthy post to explain this and it was hard to make clear.
Basically, it's about awareness of position and dominating the area by changing angles and intensity at key moments.
Most footwork drills done in a dojo don't translate automatically to the mat. This just bridges that gap. More to follow ...
Gary
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Post by meguro on Feb 10, 2014 18:05:13 GMT -5
Footwork is something a lot of fighters don't understand. They all want to throw bombs and knock people over, or failing that they want to outwork the opponent and win by decision, often taking slightly less of a pasting than their opponent and carrying injuries or tiredness into the following rounds. . . . It's not just fighters, in some cases it seems institutional. . You'll often have these battles of dreadnoughts lobbing bombs at each other from close range, feet planted except to throw the low kick. A lot of it, it seems to me, owes to the extremely small dojo sprinkled throughout Japan where there is simply no mat space as you have many karateka fighting at the same time on the tatami; it discouraged footwork. Then there is the scoring-zip, zero, nada for sweeps. The folks with the best footwork, and understanding of it, seemed to be the smallest fighters, as they had to be fleet of foot or strong of chin. Looking forward to more of your thoughts on the subject. . .
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Post by GJEC on Feb 11, 2014 9:27:12 GMT -5
Played around with this for a few days now after watching a few youtubes full of missed chances. It doesn't lend itself to typed explanations.
People get fixated on battering their opponent and not getting pushed around. The chance to shift position and gain an advantage is often right there for the taking.
I'll try and record a few ideas next session.
Gary
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Post by meguro on Feb 11, 2014 10:35:57 GMT -5
I agree. It is very hard to do analysis with just text. Pictures are helpful, but video with voice over analysis or annotations work much better. BJJ Scout does a great job of fight analysis. I wish I had the tech and the knowhow to produce such videos.
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Post by Ros on Feb 11, 2014 10:50:52 GMT -5
It doesn't lend itself to typed explanations. Maybe you could get Monty to draw you some stick men?
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Post by monty on Feb 11, 2014 10:53:24 GMT -5
It doesn't lend itself to typed explanations. Maybe you could get Monty to draw you some stick men? Oi!
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Post by GJEC on Feb 11, 2014 11:08:10 GMT -5
It's a really simple principle, so simple people hear it and ignore it, thinking it's never going to work ...
But after 25 years of refereeing I know judges base decisions on it in the absence of other evidence.
Bring your crayons Monty!
Gary
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Post by monty on Feb 11, 2014 12:20:47 GMT -5
It's a really simple principle, so simple people hear it and ignore it, thinking it's never going to work ... But after 25 years of refereeing I know judges base decisions on it in the absence of other evidence. Bring your crayons Monty! Gary Oi! I don't know where people get the idea I can't draw from?
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Post by Ros on Feb 12, 2014 2:42:02 GMT -5
Oi! I don't know where people get the idea I can't draw from? The unassailing evidence, I assume. If anyone thinks that Monty can, in fact, draw, they are welcome to come round for a game of Pictionary!
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Post by monty on Feb 12, 2014 2:50:43 GMT -5
Oi! I don't know where people get the idea I can't draw from? The unassailing evidence, I assume. If anyone thinks that Monty can, in fact, draw, they are welcome to come round for a game of Pictionary! The 'Draw left handed' rounds are particularly amusing
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Post by MMX on Feb 12, 2014 11:12:35 GMT -5
Looking forward to your insights Gary.
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Post by GJEC on Mar 17, 2014 9:21:50 GMT -5
Still struggling to put this down simply. In a nutshell, never go straight back and don't unload on someone until you have their back within 1 metre of the edge of the area. By combining the two we allow our opponents to tire themselves out pushing us across the mat then pivot at the right time and smash them out of the area. More to come once I work out how to video and post. (Could be a while ) Gary
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