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Post by senshido on Mar 31, 2011 7:13:13 GMT -5
This is fast aproaching, all entry forms to be in by April 9th.  I know Alan, Ros, Monty, Wullie, Tmd and myself will be there... anyone else? |
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Post by MMX on Mar 31, 2011 11:13:37 GMT -5
Wish I could! I will be at the World Sabaki in Denver that day though.
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Post by walshy on Mar 31, 2011 15:01:57 GMT -5
Wont be there this year  got the joys of work. Unless i get a lottery win between now and then  |
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Post by kvw on Mar 31, 2011 15:56:40 GMT -5
I'm working. |
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Post by alan on Apr 1, 2011 7:58:34 GMT -5
i had a chat with sensei alan yesterday and asked him if things had got any better regarding his students preparation for this tournament. i know he has been desparate to support this and put a team in and has done a lot of hard work and planning and this is how it`s ended: "i layed on a special training session for the two fighters i intended to take last week, one didn`t turn up and the other one started panting as i was sparring with him, for heavens sake, me an old man, i should have been the one panting not him, how do you think this makes me feel......i can`t take him he`s just not ready!! this guy had obviously done no personal stamina training and would have got hurt, if he took him. i felt so sorry for the guy and secretly wished i had somebody like him with the right attitude behind me, not the ,"you have to do what you are told, if i say you train every weekend at my place that`s what you do, if you wont squad train when i say so, you wont get upgraded or fight in any competitions until you do!!" all this guy wants to do is the right thing....what`s going on  obviously his trip to Scotland is off. |
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Post by fatjoe on Apr 1, 2011 8:59:14 GMT -5
We have the same at our dojo! No one person is committed to training, never mind competition. Part of the problem where I train is Sensei rewarding folks who show up every once in a while with a promotion. They struggle with everything technical, display youthfully endowed talent for a little while and fall apart when they have to show spirit. After any tough class, we may not have some folks show up for a few months!!!!!
I am in no way shape or form tournament ready. BUT, If I go I know I can pace myself through the fights as I have done before. I just try not to roll an ankle, strain my hip or throw my back out.....I cant grasp why the younger guys wont put a foot forward!! Then show up 1 - 3 x per month forget every kata, lame out on sparring.....but look for the next kyu grade.
We have tournaments coming up and it looks like only myself and 2 other folks will compete in kata and kumite......very very sad state.....I would like to put the kumite behind me, but who will represent the school!!
Sad!! OSU!!
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Post by GJEC on Apr 1, 2011 9:01:31 GMT -5
i had a chat with sensei alan yesterday and asked him if things had got any better regarding his students preparation for this tournament. i know he has been desparate to support this and put a team in and has done a lot of hard work and planning and this is how it`s ended: "i layed on a special training session for the two fighters i intended to take last week, one didn`t turn up and the other one started panting as i was sparring with him, for heavens sake, me an old man, i should have been the one panting not him, how do you think this makes me feel......i can`t take him he`s just not ready!! this guy had obviously done no personal stamina training and would have got hurt, if he took him. i felt so sorry for the guy and secretly wished i had somebody like him with the right attitude behind me, not the ,"you have to do what you are told, if i say you train every weekend at my place that`s what you do, if you wont squad train when i say so, you wont get upgraded or fight in any competitions until you do!!" all this guy wants to do is the right thing....what`s going on obviously his trip to Scotland is off. All he (or any instructor) can do is fan the flames. He can't do it for them or make them do it, it has to come from within. Sounds like they only agreed to enter to please him, but neither want to do the graft. A common problem in many dojo. He's not alone, nor should he blame himself. Gary |
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Post by alan on Apr 1, 2011 9:27:27 GMT -5
you are of course right Gary what i can`t get my head round is the amount of people wearing the belt and not wanting to fight in a kyokushin dojo.
can you imagine bernards reaction to having people walking the walk but not wanting to talk the talk?...they would never have been seen again!
a sign of the times perhaps?
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Post by GJEC on Apr 1, 2011 9:40:42 GMT -5
It may well be. I've mellowed a lot myself though to be honest, as I think some of the cruel bullying practises of years past are best forgotten. Regarding competition I think coaches should try - through conversation - to find out what motivates people to enter, then use that as the basis for encouragement. Personal challenge? Trophies? Wanting to feel good at something? Proving doubters wrong? etc etc. We're all different so a blanket "You need to compete before you can get a black belt" or "I've entered you next weekend, don't let us down" is flawed. Not everyone wants to compete and I'm fine with that. We still do fight tests for black belts though, so if adults want a dan grade from us they've got to be technically sound, physically robust and mentally strong. If they've not done the graft it's soon exposed. That sorts the talkers from the walkers Gary |
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Post by alan on Apr 1, 2011 10:35:39 GMT -5
a fair point Gary.
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Post by senshido on Apr 1, 2011 10:52:24 GMT -5
I spoke to Sensei Alan this morning and he now has 2 novices fighting, the flights are booked!  |
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Post by wullie on Apr 1, 2011 15:14:03 GMT -5
personally i don't understand someone that is fit and able not wanting a bit of kumite  . i can't compete with the younger ones these days but i'll still fight in tournament, it's what i want to do most. when it comes down to it i'm not bothered about grades and winning or loosing all i want to do is get on the mat and have a go. if i hadn't been a bit ill and missed some training i'd be fighting over in edinbugger, even put having a new tattoo on hold for it. oh well roll on october |
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Post by GJEC on Apr 2, 2011 5:42:04 GMT -5
personally i don't understand someone that is fit and able not wanting a bit of kumite . i can't compete with the younger ones these days but i'll still fight in tournament, it's what i want to do most. when it comes down to it i'm not bothered about grades and winning or loosing all i want to do is get on the mat and have a go. if i hadn't been a bit ill and missed some training i'd be fighting over in edinbugger, even put having a new tattoo on hold for it. oh well roll on october I suppose it's a bit like driving, most of us want to be able to drive fast and safe, but few want to take our car on the track and trash it. I can see both sides, but I feel in a 'normal' dojo there's room for everyone. It does p*** you off when people tell you they want to compete but won't do the graft. If they're honest though, no harm done. If you run a dojo as a 'fighters only' club people at least know what's expected of them. My guess is it'd be a handful of crazies though. I want to help weak people get strong, not just help strong people get stronger, so I'll train anyone. Gary |
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Post by powerof0ne on Apr 2, 2011 11:25:45 GMT -5
I don't get not wanting to fight neither. I can understand as you get older, you got obligations and perhaps a career that doesn't look kindly at you coming to work limping and what not but when you're younger why wouldn't you want to try a competition? I myself shy away from competition now only because I have a metal plate and screws attached to my pelvis LOL. So I do NOW understand those that have a legit injury/physical condition that doesn't make competition safe or practical. However, I still have a big test left and I'm still itching to do at least one more tournament before I hang it all up. I can remember when I was a kid and teen doing a WKF rules tournament one week, next week open freestyle tournament, and TKD tournament the week after then during my HS years doing kickboxing, muay thai, and knockdown karate rules. I just thought it was a lot of fun fighting and not getting in any trouble for it  ! Maybe I'm just a sadist? I feel a bit better that others feel the same as me, though . Osu! |
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Post by wullie on Apr 3, 2011 4:34:18 GMT -5
personally i don't understand someone that is fit and able not wanting a bit of kumite . i can't compete with the younger ones these days but i'll still fight in tournament, it's what i want to do most. when it comes down to it i'm not bothered about grades and winning or loosing all i want to do is get on the mat and have a go. if i hadn't been a bit ill and missed some training i'd be fighting over in edinbugger, even put having a new tattoo on hold for it. oh well roll on october I suppose it's a bit like driving, most of us want to be able to drive fast and safe, but few want to take our car on the track and trash it. I can see both sides, but I feel in a 'normal' dojo there's room for everyone. It does p*** you off when people tell you they want to compete but won't do the graft. If they're honest though, no harm done. If you run a dojo as a 'fighters only' club people at least know what's expected of them. My guess is it'd be a handful of crazies though. I want to help weak people get strong, not just help strong people get stronger, so I'll train anyone. Gary i made my post with my student head on, trainer head knows exactly what you mean |
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got the joys of work. Unless i get a lottery win between now and then 
. i can't compete with the younger ones these days but i'll still fight in tournament, it's what i want to do most. when it comes down to it i'm not bothered about grades and winning or loosing all i want to do is get on the mat and have a go. if i hadn't been a bit ill and missed some training i'd be fighting over in edinbugger, even put having a new tattoo on hold for it. oh well roll on october 
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