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Post by powerof0ne on Apr 4, 2011 9:01:55 GMT -5
Do any of you fight from a more "side" or "sitting" stance in kumite?
I only ask because it's fairly obvious that most of us do kumite from a more squared forward stance.
Years and years and years ago I briefly trained at a dojo that tried to advocate fighting from a side stance that was practically backwards..had you just about scooting up to your opponent with your butt, no lie. I thought it was stupid but I'm fine being wrong if I'm proven wrong.
IMHO, if you focused on a sitting or side stance a lot you would be very vulnerable to gedan mawashi geri. However, you'd be in an optimal stance for yoko geri.
Even before I got into MT and knockdown karate, when I was primarily a shito and goju ryu stylist I still did kumite in a more square stanced but that's probably because I loved the chudan and jodan mawashi geri.
What are some of your thoughts on the "side" or "sitting" stance?
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Post by MMX on Apr 4, 2011 10:57:27 GMT -5
I feel comfortable in a boxing/knockdown stance. I really don't think I could fight from another stance and feel like I could move or properly defend myself. That is just me though...
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Post by senshido on Apr 4, 2011 14:01:32 GMT -5
I think most low kickers would not fight in a side on stance, I feel very uncomfortable when I try... so I no longer try  |
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Post by powerof0ne on Apr 4, 2011 14:15:30 GMT -5
Even before I learned low kicks and started doing kumite with them I never liked being in a "side sitting stance" that I can remember. I do remember doing some drills to set up the yoko geri from such a stance but I don't think I ever really used it in kumite because it just didn't feel 'right' for me.
I'm still working on the Benny "The Jet" way of doing a sliding front to side kick from the squared stance..still a work in progress.
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Post by curlbroscience on Apr 4, 2011 14:39:43 GMT -5
As an aside to this question:
In stance are you full on square towards your opponent or slightly angled?
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Post by gotapex on Apr 4, 2011 16:38:22 GMT -5
As an aside to this question: In stance are you full on square towards your opponent or slightly angled? I'm somewhere inbetween. I'm not as squared as many kickboxers, but not quite as sideways as some knockdown, and definitely not as sideways as TKD fighters. I guess it's all a matter of compromise. |
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Post by MMX on Apr 4, 2011 16:54:53 GMT -5
As an aside to this question: In stance are you full on square towards your opponent or slightly angled? Angled. Don't want to go straight on as that makes a bigger target. |
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Post by wullie on Apr 5, 2011 6:28:24 GMT -5
IMHO sideways on works well if its for points, a bit more like fencing, BUT it will get you destroyed in a full contact match of any style that allows low kicks and that the ref doesn't stop the fight after the first strike.
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Post by powerof0ne on Apr 5, 2011 11:49:02 GMT -5
Good point Wullie and probably why I wasn't the greatest point fighter lol. Surprised I even won nationals one year.
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Post by gotapex on Apr 5, 2011 15:52:15 GMT -5
I think there's a time and place for everything. The closer you tend to fight to your opponent, the more square you tend to need to be.
Even for those that tend to stand pretty square, when they're doing more back kicks (straight or hook), or spinning backfist, they do seem to adopt a more sideways stance. You'll often see this with folks like Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Dan Hardy, Ben Henderson, and others.
As with all things, it's horses for courses.
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Post by curlbroscience on Apr 6, 2011 9:41:55 GMT -5
As with all things, it's horses for courses.  |
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Post by ironcastknight on Apr 6, 2011 10:53:58 GMT -5
Quit horsing around Sotacram, you wild stallion with an unbroken spirit, and get back in the saddle of this topic.
I generally quickly switch to a sideways stance when doing side and front leg roundhouses, but generally prefer a more square stance. Stability, defense, ability to more easily go into a throw, etc etc so forth.
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Post by curlbroscience on Apr 6, 2011 13:12:12 GMT -5
Okay okay, i'll play.  Like gotapex said slightly angled from punching, kicking distances. Square when in knee/elbow/clinch range. |
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Post by evergrey on Apr 8, 2011 14:20:08 GMT -5
I actually tried a low deep horse stance during kumite yesterday. Normally I fight really squared up. I have a long torso and stubby little t-rex arms though, so I was getting nailed with mawashi geris in the floating ribs.
Going down into that stance, my partner got confused and ended up getting to know my elbows a bit better. I didn't feel like I could MOVE as fast though. Lots of disadvantages to that. Some nice advantages. I'll probably generally go with more squared up, though.
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Post by meguro on Apr 13, 2011 15:00:24 GMT -5
It doesn't work too well in knockdown. It reminds me of a guy who tried to make it in K-1, his name escapes me. He wore a yellow track suit like Bruce Lee and got bashed up for trying that side stance business. Too funny.
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