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Post by powerof0ne on Dec 14, 2011 4:06:16 GMT -5
Kyokushin Challenge 2012 - April 14, 2012 - Bellevue, WA Osu! Eastside Kyokushin Karate and Self-Defense, in cooperation with Northwest Kyokushin, will behosting the International Karate Organization - Matsushima 2012 Kyokushin Challenge Open Karate Tournament. It will be held in Bellevue, WA, USA. Open to all styles, including Kyokushinkai, Kyokushinkan, Shidokan, Enshin, SeidoKaikan, ShinKyokushin, SatoJuku, Ashihara Karate, World Oyama Karate, Kanreikai, Seiwakai Organizations. Other styles welcome as well. 14615 SE 22nd Street Bellevue, WA 98007 Weigh ins begin at 8am, Kids start at 10am, adults around noon. Kids division will be semi-contact Mens, Womens, and '35 and wiser' knockdown divisions Ring style as well (similar to 'K1' rules) If you have questions, please contact Sensei Jon Campbell 425-213-9152 sensei@eastsidekyokushin.com Osu! I just had Sensei Campbell's permission via email to post this (surprised at 0100  )For those that aren't aware, this is near Seattle, WA. Any forum questions, please ask "Seattle" on here, he can find out if he doesn't know (you're welcome Seattle  ). If you're able to, I highly recommend going to this tournament, it truly is what an open Kyokushin tournament should be. Not only is the judging fair but everyone is very friendly, this group of people truly are doing what we all should be doing for knockdown tournaments. Osu! |
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Post by seattle on Jan 28, 2012 17:16:28 GMT -5
The rules a presented to me for the Ring Style division:
Punch to face, no elbows to the face
Groin kicks legal
Grabbing ok 2-3 sec, but not while striking
Mouthguard and cup are mandatory, we provide gloves (~12oz), no headgear, no shin pads
Solid throw/sweep counts as a wazari
3x2min rounds, Judges keep score, make dec at end of the 3rd.
Fight ends early due to knockout
3 judges, 1 ref
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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 28, 2012 17:24:39 GMT -5
Wow, groin kicks legal? This IMO, will draw a few select people and possibly cause others not to fight. I am going to discuss this with who I had planned on entering rings style. He may not want to now, but I hope he does!
I only have 3 to 4 so far planning on knockdown. I'm hoping to get at least 3 more in the next few months.
Osu!
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Post by seattle on Jan 28, 2012 17:32:22 GMT -5
I agree PO1. I am just sharing the rules that were given to me for you and others to be aware for the "ring" style.
Knockdown rules are in line with what one would expect.
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Post by yoshukai on Jan 28, 2012 19:24:25 GMT -5
Whoa, groin kicks? Definitely not my cup of tea...
P01, are your students going to fight knockdown or semi-knockdown, with pads?
Osu
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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 28, 2012 19:52:18 GMT -5
Knockdown and one possibly in ring style....maybe two in ring style but I'll talk to them more about it tomorrow. I'm sure Seattle will have students fighting with his recent crop of new Shodan students! Who btw all deserve it! I'd only have students fight semi-knockdown if that's all that tournament had, or if they were minors. If there's knockdown, I'd try to insist they do knockdown, over semi. I won't let them do ring style until they're at least green belt and get some more specialized kickboxing/MT training from me..or if they have previous Kickboxing/MT experience. I also told them I'd never support them competing in a kata division at a tournament I used to do it pre knockdown and Muay Thai, and looking back, it's just too damn biased at times and I have trained with people that care too much how "pretty" their kata is, instead of how effective their karate is! Sorry for my ramble! Updating this post because I now have it confirmed that 1 will be fighting ring style...now to talk to the 2nd possible candidate tomorrow . Osu! |
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Post by yoshukai on Jan 28, 2012 21:09:18 GMT -5
Knockdown and one possibly in ring style....maybe two in ring style but I'll talk to them more about it tomorrow. I'm sure Seattle will have students fighting with his recent crop of new Shodan students! Who btw all deserve it! I'd only have students fight semi-knockdown if that's all that tournament had, or if they were minors. If there's knockdown, I'd try to insist they do knockdown, over semi. I won't let them do ring style until they're at least green belt and get some more specialized kickboxing/MT training from me..or if they have previous Kickboxing/MT experience. I also told them I'd never support them competing in a kata division at a tournament I used to do it pre knockdown and Muay Thai, and looking back, it's just too damn biased at times and I have trained with people that care too much how "pretty" their kata is, instead of how effective their karate is! Sorry for my ramble! Updating this post because I now have it confirmed that 1 will be fighting ring style...now to talk to the 2nd possible candidate tomorrow . Osu! I still compete in kata only because our directors insist on it. I still meet people who tell me that they are training for the kata competition. I simply laugh and tell them, "you shouldn't have to train for kata competition". In my experience, having students fight in semi-knockdown is a good first step before stepping up to the big show. I tend to see the semi-knockdown divisions as our novice catergories. Osu! |
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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 28, 2012 21:20:50 GMT -5
Knockdown and one possibly in ring style....maybe two in ring style but I'll talk to them more about it tomorrow. I'm sure Seattle will have students fighting with his recent crop of new Shodan students! Who btw all deserve it! I'd only have students fight semi-knockdown if that's all that tournament had, or if they were minors. If there's knockdown, I'd try to insist they do knockdown, over semi. I won't let them do ring style until they're at least green belt and get some more specialized kickboxing/MT training from me..or if they have previous Kickboxing/MT experience. I also told them I'd never support them competing in a kata division at a tournament I used to do it pre knockdown and Muay Thai, and looking back, it's just too damn biased at times and I have trained with people that care too much how "pretty" their kata is, instead of how effective their karate is! Sorry for my ramble! Updating this post because I now have it confirmed that 1 will be fighting ring style...now to talk to the 2nd possible candidate tomorrow . Osu! I still compete in kata only because our directors insist on it. I still meet people who tell me that they are training for the kata competition. I simply laugh and tell them, "you shouldn't have to train for kata competition". In my experience, having students fight in semi-knockdown is a good first step before stepping up to the big show. I tend to see the semi-knockdown divisions as our novice catergories. Osu! The two I have fighting in knockdown for sure, fought in semi-knockdown this past fall. Only 1-2 totally new people will be fighting knockdown, unless they "forgot" that knockdown means no shin pads or "gloves." This Wednesday I'm going to be going over that with them again, for them to understand. I also won't allow a totally new student compete for safety reasons. Reminds me of people I trained in BJJ with calling a grappling match a fight. They got sick of me telling them that it's not a fight if strikes aren't allowed . Osu! |
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Post by gotapex on Jan 29, 2012 23:22:00 GMT -5
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Post by powerof0ne on Jan 30, 2012 21:53:31 GMT -5
Only having one enter ring style this year! If there is no groin kicks being legal next year (which I think will happen by lack of fighters this year) I think I'll be able to get a few more for ring style rules.
Osu!
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Post by seattle on Jan 31, 2012 21:20:29 GMT -5
groin kicks only legal in ring style. Not knockdown.
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evergrey
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Get over yourself, mate.
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Post by evergrey on Feb 24, 2012 6:09:53 GMT -5
OSU, are there links anywhere to forms for people who are entering? Links for paying for entry, for registration and the like? Thanks!
OSU!
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Post by Kurisu on Feb 24, 2012 7:55:18 GMT -5
What is considered a knockout in ring rules? is it done on the tatami or in a ring?
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Post by powerof0ne on Feb 24, 2012 11:44:22 GMT -5
Groin kicks being legal is taken out. The ring style is typically done where the knockdown fights are. A ko from what I have seem is when somebody is knocked out cold or isn't able to get back up on a timely manner. I don't believe there is a 3 knockdown tko rule like in some kickboxing rules, but I could be wrong.
I'll see about finding registration forms, etc.
Osu!
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Post by gotapex on Feb 24, 2012 16:31:39 GMT -5
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)For those that aren't aware, this is near Seattle, WA.
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