evergrey
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Get over yourself, mate.
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Sept 28, 2012 6:00:45 GMT -5
Post by evergrey on Sept 28, 2012 6:00:45 GMT -5
I think I'll give this a try!
We'll see if it does anything after eh, a month.
Ya know, because why the hell not?
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GJEC
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Sept 28, 2012 7:22:19 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on Sept 28, 2012 7:22:19 GMT -5
CAUTION. If you have a medical condition it may be wise to check first, or at the very least start slowly.
Having said that my sister's got a few 'problems' - most of them caused by carrying extra weight round all day - and she's loving it with the lbs dropping off.
Gary
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Sept 28, 2012 9:50:36 GMT -5
Post by Ros on Sept 28, 2012 9:50:36 GMT -5
Here's a good article on the subject from a dietitian: The Intermittent Fasting diet - the new way to get slim and healthy?Intermittent fasting has whipped up a storm of interest and debate recently, with the BBC’s Horizon programme Eat, Fast and Live Longer highlighting intermittent fasting’s (IF) potential health benefits. Claimed to help us to not only stay slim and live longer, but also ward off illnesses from diabetes to dementia, it certainly sounds impressive. So should we give a fasting diet a go? What is Intermittent Fasting?There are different approaches, for example, alternating days of fasting and eating freely, or fasting for a more extended period. For our purposes, IF refers to eating ‘normally’ for 5 days the week, and consuming around 500 (for women) or 600 calories (for men) on two days of the week, also known as 5:2 IF. Does an Intermittent Fasting Diet Work?Most of the evidence relating to the claimed health benefits of IF comes from animal studies. This is a major reason why it’s currently very difficult to make clear statements about IF’s potential health benefits. There needs to be more studies with humans, of longer duration. A British study on 5:2 Intermittent FastingLast year a British study amongst 107 overweight women (aged 30-45) was published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. The women were randomly assigned to follow either a balanced weight loss eating plan or a 5:2 Intermittent Fasting diet. After 6 months researchers found that: Weight loss was similar between the 2 diet groups (around 6kg) as was decrease in body fat and waist measurement. There were similar reductions/beneficial effects on blood cholesterol, triglycerides, leptin, blood pressure, inflammation markers and indicators of breast cancer risk, and increases in ghrelin. Both test diets led to modest improvements in fasting insulin levels and insulin sensitivity, with a greater effect for the 5:2 IF group. At the end of the trial only 58% of those following 5:2 IF planned to continue compared to 85% of those following CER More information can be found at: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.govIs Intermittent Fasting recommended?The British study suggests that 5:2 IF can be as effective for weight loss (and for providing health benefits) as a more standard restricted calorie controlled diet, with no concerning side effects, over 6 months. One point of difference (also found in some other studies) is the potential for additional benefits to insulin and blood sugar levels with intermittent fasting. If we are overweight, and lose some weight, then our overall body health will benefit – whichever approach we use. However, it isn’t healthy to follow unbalanced diets, or to greatly restrict what we eat one day, and then go mad eating whatever on other days of the week. Research does suggest that different approaches suit different people and trying out different approaches can initially be motivating. Remember however, that any dietary approach is only effective if it is nutritionally sound and can be sustained; studies comparing different popular and conventional dietary methods find that the most helpful ones are those that people can best keep to. Whichever approach is used, remember these key tips: - Keep a diary
- Structure and plan times for your meal and activity pattern
- Learn what’s in the food you’re eating
- Get support
- Take responsibility
- Stay on top of unhelpful thoughts or triggers such as ‘all or nothing’ thinking or stress/comfort eating.
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Sept 28, 2012 11:53:31 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on Sept 28, 2012 11:53:31 GMT -5
Thanks Ros It's the words 'balanced weight loss eating plan' that bother me. I really can't be arsed to weigh stuff, count calories or read labels. I eat healthy stuff then if I'm still hungry I eat some cake. So far nothing has fallen off. I feel good. My lifts are as good as before, my nose is less runny (maybe seasonal) and when I do speedplay or cycle up hills I seem to have stamina aplenty. I'm no longer 'spongy'. What's not to like? Gary
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Oct 1, 2012 7:52:58 GMT -5
Post by Ros on Oct 1, 2012 7:52:58 GMT -5
I really can't be arsed to weigh stuff, count calories or read labels. Only novices and eejits need to do that, you know. Not being able to eat for nearly 2 whole days a week! ;D
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Oct 1, 2012 8:05:26 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on Oct 1, 2012 8:05:26 GMT -5
LOL - Not quite.
I miss breakfast and lunch on those days, i.e eggs & bacon then some veggies and meat. Dinner is my main meal at about 4:30pm. If I had to miss that I'd get the hump fairly quickly.
Gary
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Oct 1, 2012 8:10:19 GMT -5
Post by Ros on Oct 1, 2012 8:10:19 GMT -5
LOL - Not quite. I miss breakfast and lunch on those days, i.e eggs & bacon then some veggies and meat. Dinner is my main meal at about 4:30pm. If I had to miss that I'd get the hump fairly quickly. Gary That must be heading for 24 hours without snap, twice a week? Ergo nearly 2 whole days without food - exactly as I said! ;D (I'm feeling quite contrary this afternoon, if you hadn't noticed.)
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Oct 1, 2012 8:14:41 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on Oct 1, 2012 8:14:41 GMT -5
Keep it going!! We'll use that tonight! Gary PS I just see it as eating 3 good meals 5 days a week and 1 good meal 2 days a week. 17/7 = 2.42857 good meals a day. Hardly starvation. Gary
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Oct 1, 2012 9:20:30 GMT -5
Post by Ros on Oct 1, 2012 9:20:30 GMT -5
Yes, but if your mean number of meals is 2.4 per day, on your fasting days you're eating nearly 60% less! Starvation!!
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Oct 4, 2012 10:30:54 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on Oct 4, 2012 10:30:54 GMT -5
Just read "Escape the Diet trap" by Dr John Briffa where all the scientific studies are referenced.
The best bit of advice is not to stress about it.
Eat good food 80+% of the time and enjoy a well earned treat now and again.
Sounds good to me!
Gary
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Oct 4, 2012 10:37:42 GMT -5
Post by Ros on Oct 4, 2012 10:37:42 GMT -5
Not another low-carb, paleo advocate! How on earth do you manage to find them? ;D ;D
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Oct 4, 2012 10:40:43 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on Oct 4, 2012 10:40:43 GMT -5
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Oct 4, 2012 14:35:08 GMT -5
Post by meguro on Oct 4, 2012 14:35:08 GMT -5
I don't eat well when I skip meals. If I miss a meal I'll probably have a bag of chips along side the next one.
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Oct 5, 2012 2:12:06 GMT -5
Post by Ros on Oct 5, 2012 2:12:06 GMT -5
Ha ha, 'Escape the Diet Trap' by buying my brand new diet book!
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Oct 7, 2012 10:01:14 GMT -5
Post by GJEC on Oct 7, 2012 10:01:14 GMT -5
Decided to wind this little experiment up. Things learnt: Missing meals is fairly easy (for me) and aids weight loss when conjoined with eating well for the rest of the week. I had no energy crashes, I sometimes trained hard on fasting days and noticed no loss of stamina and my strength remains good. No difficulty there. So why am I stopping? I've lost enough. I like to be in good condition but I don't want to be just skin, flesh and bones. Winter's coming, I still need some body fat. I won't make the cover of Men's Health, but I'll cope ... Gary
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