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Post by alan on Mar 17, 2011 2:30:49 GMT -5
just shows how times change, after a really heavy session we all used to bundle in the pub for a few and a chat. i nearly put the tongue symbal, i thought it meant yum, yum!
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Post by evergrey on Mar 17, 2011 3:43:32 GMT -5
I have heard some sort of rumors about a karaoke night, whispered of amongst the black belts... does karaoke count as a drug?
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Post by hangtime on Mar 17, 2011 8:37:42 GMT -5
New a good knockdown fighter who was prescribed pot from his pediatrician. Reason being, he was a fighter and apparently it was like prescibing pain pills. Am I reading that right? And yes, what a shame. Wasn't this the year he became "unglued" and gave away what should have been an easy draw?
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Post by yoshukai on Mar 17, 2011 16:51:12 GMT -5
New a good knockdown fighter who was prescribed pot from his pediatrician. Reason being, he was a fighter and apparently it was like prescibing pain pills. Am I reading that right? And yes, what a shame. Wasn't this the year he became "unglued" and gave away what should have been an easy draw? Yes sir. You read it right. That was the year with all the hair pulling.... ha
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hangtime
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Post by hangtime on Mar 18, 2011 9:42:12 GMT -5
But...why a pediatrician? He was in his 30's!
Yea, same year. He should've easily beat that guy. I did feel bad for the kid though; he got three tough fights in a row...I wouldn't have wanted to fight that draw!
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Post by knuckleheader on Mar 19, 2011 19:35:25 GMT -5
I was a serious pot smoker during my "prime". Plenty of regret now. I like to think my competition would have been better without it.
I'd seen very good fighters smoke too. Some talent won't be negatively effected, it seems.
Then again, some fighters never know if they would have been a champion if they lived clean.
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Post by powerof0ne on Mar 19, 2011 19:55:01 GMT -5
There is one person in particular that I know well who has won some MMA titles that I'm almost 100% sure would have been a world known pro fighter if he wasn't such a pot head. He has also thrown about a dozen fight cards, helps run a BJJ school and is a BJJ black belt..not a bad kickboxer, neither. This guy would toke up before he trained, after he trained and still had one hell of a cardio but I can't imagine how much better he would have been without pot. Still one hell of a friend and a good martial artist. I've seen him give guys the shirt off his back so it's kind of hard to think he's some "evil pot smoker" and who I had in mind when I started this thread. Osu!
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Post by knuckleheader on Mar 20, 2011 14:17:40 GMT -5
That's the intangible of being an elite athlete. You'd never know how great an athlete could be, if they'd not always given them self every advantage. It annoyed me to no end, seeing good fighters win with all their bad habits.
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Post by seattle on Mar 22, 2011 1:51:54 GMT -5
Thing is, what is detrimental to one person is a benefit to another. This may or may not be the cases in some of these people. Same principle, IMO, applies to drinkers and tobacco smokers. The day after a hard night of drinking does not help ones training, for example. Different stigma's attached with different drugs. I see more people's training affected by drinking than by smoking pot. I have a student who come hungover to kumite class regularly, pretty good fighter. How much better could he be if he was not dragging his arse into class on Saturday afternoons? Or is it his medicine that keeps him going in the world? (He is not an alcoholic) There are people who are users/abusers who are at the top of their sport.
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Post by Ros on Mar 22, 2011 2:49:50 GMT -5
Thing is, what is detrimental to one person is a benefit to another. I would respectfully disagree and say that smoking (pot or just tobacco) is always deleterious to health. Even if the effects are not immediate, a decline in lung capacity is likely which must have an effect on fighting capability. Far better to eat your pot! I'm always a bit amazed at the number of serious athletes who are quite happy to drink to excess regularly. Actually, I'm quite surprised by the number of people who are no longer teenagers who regularly get completely hammered.
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Post by wullie on Mar 22, 2011 6:39:27 GMT -5
Can't deny that I enjoy a pint, never been one for pot or other drugs, but only drink to excess on special occasions, dont see the point in getting wasted all the time.
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Post by evergrey on Mar 22, 2011 18:18:51 GMT -5
The thought of getting hammered just makes me feel tired. Last time I had a drink was when Sensei made me a hot toddy because I was sick and couldn't get to sleep. I tell you what, I slept like a rock for a good 3 or 4 hours then!
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Post by seattle on Mar 23, 2011 19:48:10 GMT -5
I suppose the more "elite" of an athlete the more that any drug becomes detriment. I will agree that smoking or drinking can and probably does reduce an athletes ability to some degree.
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Post by smoke on Mar 25, 2011 15:03:38 GMT -5
I won't lie, I've done it a few times, but how is marijuana different than alcohol? Just like a drunk person, I don't want to deal with someone in school or during training under the influence. I'm a person that goes by a live let live basis. I don't care what you do in your spare time. Just don't let it effect anyone else or yourself in a very harmful way.
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Post by hokuto12 on Mar 30, 2011 22:46:41 GMT -5
I for one am against pot in the public and definitely not in the dojo. If someone is high I would not want them to train and I think the Sensei should ask them to leave and never come back.
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