Who's Jesse?

[MMX]

I have to admit I chuckled a bit at that one too.

[evergrey]

Dec 12, 2013 6:23:20 GMT -5 GJEC said:

We try to please on this forum with none of the stuffiness sometimes followed by others.

Glad that 'tickled your fancy'

Gary

Hahaha, what's a "fancy" in the UK?

Anything like a fanny?

[GJEC]

In the UK it's an old saying that means 'appealed to your sense of humour'.

Fanny has a rather different meaning here.



Gary

[monty]

Dec 12, 2013 15:18:48 GMT -5 GJEC said:

Fanny has a rather different meaning here.

Not that different really, separated by a few inches

[evergrey]

Dec 12, 2013 15:18:48 GMT -5 GJEC said:

In the UK it's an old saying that means 'appealed to your sense of humour'.

Fanny has a rather different meaning here.



Gary

Hah, here too, for the tickling one's fancy thing.
Here, fanny means butt.
Just covering my bases!

[drakonhardt]

Nov 29, 2013 3:57:44 GMT -5 meguro said:

Nov 29, 2013 2:21:53 GMT -5 evergrey said:

Was he that guy who tried to say that nobody should be saying "OSU," and that it is overused by Americans, and never used in Japan?
Because lemme tell you, all the Kyokushin students from Japan I've met... they don't tend to say a lot other than "OSU" in any kind of formal setting. The one who trained with us for two years, I think it took like 4 months to get him to say anything other than OSU, even before or after class!

Maybe you are thinking of Rob Redmond of 24 fighting Chickens fame? Mr. Redmond is often cited as the source for all things "Osu," most of which I find amusing rather than informative. Osu as a contraction of "ohayo gozaimasu" ( good morning), I don't think so.

I have a beef with traditional karate, if you haven't noticed. What if the founders got it wrong from the beginning? Without the ability to question, practitioners would be perpetuating nonsense. Mas Oyama started out on a trajectory that should be continued.  

What's considered Traditional Karate? Does that include the Okinawan styles?

[MMX]

I will not speak for Meguro but I would venture anything pre Kyokushin as far as Japanese Karate and that would include the Okinawan styles since they were the direct influence on the Japanese ones.

What Meguro is saying I think is that Mas Oyama decided it is not enough to 'learn' all the moves. You must 'test' the movements for yourself and the only way to figure out what really works is kumite. Real kumite.

[drakonhardt]

Jul 9, 2014 14:41:38 GMT -5 MMX said:

I will not speak for Meguro but I would venture anything pre Kyokushin as far as Japanese Karate and that would include the Okinawan styles since they were the direct influence on the Japanese ones.

What Meguro is saying I think is that Mas Oyama decided it is not enough to 'learn' all the moves. You must 'test' the movements for yourself and the only way to figure out what really works is kumite. Real kumite.

I know there's a Full-Contact Karate Tournament that's been going on in Okinawa for some decades and participation has been arbitrary among dojo's rather than styles.

From documentaries and TV shows a lot of more popular dojo and organizations on Okinawa have adopted the JKA-style kumite though.

[meguro]

There's traditional, and there's traditional. . The kind I avoid places an emphasis on precise form, with no clue on function. It finds deep meaning in endless repetition and promises some kind of revelation afterwards, that some hidden karate secrets will be revealed through navel gazing. When the karate you are practicing veers into the mystical, your bullshit detector should be chiming.

[GJEC]

I've never really understood people who seek a deep philosophical 'meaning-of-life' type thing from getting sweaty and bruised.

Karate has improved my life, no question, but there's been no lightning flashes of mystical realisation.

Of course the biggest benefits were keeping me out of A & E or Prison with the ability to control my responses to violent situations.

All told pretty useful and not a rock to sit on in sight.



Gary