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Post by GJEC on Nov 25, 2013 5:11:49 GMT -5
I keep getting people sending me his tips or seeing him quoted on MA forums ...
But years ago I learnt to question things, so:
Is he good?
Can he coach?
Does he run a good club?
Has he won anything?
A casual google search revealed a very well constructed website selling his books, claims of worldwide training and competition experience but a style and Grandmasters I've never heard of.
Don't get me wrong, he might be brilliant, but I focus on advice from good people in tough systems. I wonder if anyone could enlighten me further?
Gary
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Post by meguro on Nov 25, 2013 7:52:51 GMT -5
I was a moderator of a now defunct karate forum (I was the token Kyokushin guy) years ago when Jesse introduce himself, and his blog. At the time, I got the impression that he was enamored of the sort of karate I don't like: a lot of foot stomping, loud kiai, and furious air punching. Maybe he has evolved.
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Post by GJEC on Nov 25, 2013 7:59:37 GMT -5
I'm glad you said that meguro as I thought it was just me being cynical again.
I'm always a bit suspicious of peoples motives when they try to expose things, wondering if it's publicity they seek or just book sales. Once they tell people all about the 'wrong' way many naturally assume they have a direct line to the 'right' way.
I'll stick to asking good people in tough systems when I have any questions.
Gary
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Post by MMX on Nov 25, 2013 10:59:53 GMT -5
Yeah I have read his site a few times. He has some good tips but overall it seems very focused on Kata and in a style that is non contact. Not sure of the style nor do I really care.
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Post by GJEC on Nov 26, 2013 5:33:30 GMT -5
That's the thing isn't it? People from all different parts of the martial arts spectrum feel qualified to comment on the rest, sometimes with zero practical knowledge of the training involved.
I describe most of the KD instructors I've met as good people in tough systems. I occasionally read advice and blogs from people in 'traditional' or 'practical' systems, but rarely take it on board. It might work for them but I like what I do without pretending it's complete or it makes me awesome.
Gary
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Post by blacktiger on Nov 26, 2013 7:21:17 GMT -5
I've been thinking the same thing as to who he is.
from the photos I see on his page he looks possibly 20's or 30's so does he really have enough experience of life let alone experience of martial arts.
I wonder Gary, would you also aske the same question on the other forums we both frequent?
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Post by GJEC on Nov 26, 2013 7:30:52 GMT -5
I only post on KDF and Iain Abernethy's now. Not at home at the moment but I'll post it later. Pull up a chair ...
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Post by blacktiger on Nov 26, 2013 9:53:01 GMT -5
Interesting, Gary one of those forums didn't like it!
Mmmmmmmm
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Post by GJEC on Nov 26, 2013 13:08:31 GMT -5
I posted on Iain's and he deleted it. I understand why and accept his reasons. It's OK to critique a persons training but not the person themself. Although I wasn't doing that he feels such threads rapidly degenerate.
I personally feel anyone who sets up an 'educational' blog criticising other karate-ka should be prepared to justify their opinions and cite relevant experience. But maybe that's just me.
Gary
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Post by blacktiger on Nov 27, 2013 7:09:24 GMT -5
I posted on Iain's and he deleted it. I understand why and accept his reasons. It's OK to critique a persons training but not the person themself. Although I wasn't doing that he feels such threads rapidly degenerate. I personally feel anyone who sets up an 'educational' blog criticising other karate-ka should be prepared to justify their opinions and cite relevant experience. But maybe that's just me. Gary Strange Gary, I wasn't looking for anything derogatory about Jesse, just a bit more info about him and his experience, the same as if anyone was askinig about You or Me or Wullie etc. Would you mind if I added this to other forums I'm on, I will post their responses on here if they're valid etc
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Post by powerof0ne on Nov 27, 2013 11:37:01 GMT -5
I have no idea who this guy is, but I'm willing to guess I'd probably think the same as you Gary, if not even more cynical . Osu!
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Post by GJEC on Nov 27, 2013 12:55:34 GMT -5
Post what you like Ken. If he's well experienced I'm all ears. If he's just a slick marketing operation though 'exposing' bad practise (IHO) in martial arts to sell a few books, well in that case people might want to hear a few counter arguments before shelling out cash.
Years ago if you heard good things about someone you went to their club and trained. You might come away thinking 'that was crap' but at least you found out first hand. Today people read blogs and seem taken in by it without further investigation. Things become accepted facts purely because a well known blog says so.
Not in my world but I AM a dinosaur.
Gary
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Post by evergrey on Nov 29, 2013 2:21:53 GMT -5
Was he that guy who tried to say that nobody should be saying "OSU," and that it is overused by Americans, and never used in Japan? Because lemme tell you, all the Kyokushin students from Japan I've met... they don't tend to say a lot other than "OSU" in any kind of formal setting. The one who trained with us for two years, I think it took like 4 months to get him to say anything other than OSU, even before or after class!
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Post by meguro on Nov 29, 2013 3:57:44 GMT -5
Was he that guy who tried to say that nobody should be saying "OSU," and that it is overused by Americans, and never used in Japan? Because lemme tell you, all the Kyokushin students from Japan I've met... they don't tend to say a lot other than "OSU" in any kind of formal setting. The one who trained with us for two years, I think it took like 4 months to get him to say anything other than OSU, even before or after class! Maybe you are thinking of Rob Redmond of 24 fighting Chickens fame? Mr. Redmond is often cited as the source for all things "Osu," most of which I find amusing rather than informative. Osu as a contraction of "ohayo gozaimasu" ( good morning), I don't think so. I have a beef with traditional karate, if you haven't noticed. What if the founders got it wrong from the beginning? Without the ability to question, practitioners would be perpetuating nonsense. Mas Oyama started out on a trajectory that should be continued.
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Post by GJEC on Nov 29, 2013 10:10:48 GMT -5
I have a beef with traditional karate, if you haven't noticed. What if the founders got it wrong from the beginning? That is the $64,000 question isn't it? I often play this little mental game of "I wonder how revered master 'A' would have got on in a tear up against current champion 'B'?" Based purely on the grainy footage I've seen, not very well for some of them. In all sports and activities huge strides have been made. Sometimes, as in strength work we look back on bygone times of physical culture and wonder were it all went wrong, but I genuinely don't do that in MA. Some can't answer a question on a forum without quoting a long dead master but to me that's a cop out. The only thing that matters is whether it works today, right now. Gary
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