Why Traditional Karate does not work in the RING. Aug 15, 2015 16:59:36 GMT -5 Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostMemberGive GiftBack to Top Post by meguro on Aug 15, 2015 16:59:36 GMT -5 Aug 14, 2015 17:14:20 GMT -5 GJEC said:Made even more sad when we see otherwise sane people in awe of these old 'masters'.GaryNow that I'm greying, I'm going to exploit this phenomenon to the fullest and get me a proper entourage.