residentrenzo
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The only way to overcome fear is through it, not around it.
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Post by residentrenzo on Mar 9, 2015 22:21:34 GMT -5
Whew! Well, finally someone said it out loud. Glad it's you Sensei... it's reassuring to think I wasn't far off wrong on my opinion on the guy. (And FFS... what's with that "carrot cake" obsession?) can't stop... laughing... ribs hurting... people staring... OSU -RR
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Post by meguro on Mar 16, 2015 3:29:47 GMT -5
Thought I would share this clip with you. It depicts an intermediate neck crank/break/takedown in Silat, which resembles some patterned movement in the kata Saifa. I think it illustrates the importance of partner work over the marching up and down doing traditional kata. It is a short clip so many details are left out, proceed with caution. youtu.be/D3FV3_Yq8So
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Post by meguro on Mar 19, 2015 11:04:02 GMT -5
This is some footage I had on hand. I put it up because it looks like the deep lunging pose and turn in Kanku. The arm-bar used by Ronda Rousey against Zingano is a variation of the arm-bar shown here. youtu.be/yPXjyEddsVY
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Post by karate4life on May 9, 2015 14:40:19 GMT -5
What kind of feedback do you expect from doing all those repetitions of kata? How do you know what you are doing is doing anything? You'll never know if it's doing anything at all if you don't pressure-test it. What endless repetitions of kata do for me, though, is producing a lot of sweat and giving me one hell of a workout, fully knowing that I'd be better off doing shadow sparring. Striking and kicking can be practiced without a partner in a useful way in order to sharpen technique, but takedowns or joint locks? No way, and thus far I haven't yet seen Judoka practicing against the air. But then, well, I cannot imagine Karate without kata - it's what we do, isn't it? As Senshido already said, he enjoys it. So do I. A lot actually. Even if it's really just a dance. Osu!
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Post by meguro on May 10, 2015 4:44:44 GMT -5
I have been focusing exclusively on applications for the past couple years: current training module is taking head control at the clinch. You practice these technique over and over with multiple partners, slowly with compliance and then at speed. The technique becomes your own when you can develop short cuts and variations. Then you realize that kata only hints at the depth of the art. It can never be fully expressed in the dance. I wasn't just waxing poetic when I said kata is the lesson plan not the lesson.
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Post by karate4life on May 10, 2015 15:54:23 GMT -5
It's all in the ura kata...
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Post by meguro on May 11, 2015 6:18:08 GMT -5
It's all in the ura kata... You're fitting right in.
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Post by meguro on Jun 2, 2015 7:40:45 GMT -5
I get that there's not a lot of traffic on the kata threads. This is a knockdown forum after all. I still get the sense, though, that there are traditionalists lurking out there. I mean it is still a karate forum and not an MMA forum. So, for all you closet traditionalists, hold on to your obi. Cut the woo. It will be hard, because many I think try to hold on to a bit of mysticism to give gravity to what we do. There is no chi, no nukite to puncture the sternum, no magic stance, no hand movements to render the Kamehameha wave. Back it up or cut it out.
Lately, I've been thinking a lot about the kata seienchin. To be precise, I've been thinking a lot about the applications in seinchin, and when without a training partner go through the motions, kind alike kata practice, but not really. I mix and match entry and finishing technique. My body positions are defaulted to the previous training partner's body size and dimensions. The speed and tempo of the movements reflect actual technique, and not some imagined strike or block combined with unlikely chamber positions.
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Post by meguro on Sept 14, 2015 10:01:12 GMT -5
Just saw a vid of my sempai in Japan using a small bit of seienchin as his approach to a stack of ice blocks. It was a successful break, but why the seienchin? I get that it looks martial artsy, but at the same time martial artsy now looks a little like rain dancing cuckoo bananas.
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Post by MMX on Sept 14, 2015 11:16:05 GMT -5
Maybe he had to psyche himself up?
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Post by meguro on Sept 15, 2015 4:54:42 GMT -5
'Samatter, kiai not good enough anymore?
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Post by meguro on Oct 29, 2015 10:01:12 GMT -5
Last week I was working on some takedowns involving the kiba dachi. In this particular application it is the rapid descent into kiba dachi that is key. The resulting low stance is simply the finishing position; all the magic happened on the way down. Obviously, you need a partner. Without one you'll never perfect the takedown. Which brings me back to kata, and how do you know what you are doing is doing anything? Imagine you were practicing origami (Japanese paper folding art). It is inconceivable that one would get anywhere in origami without a piece of paper to work with.
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Post by MMX on Oct 29, 2015 11:30:17 GMT -5
Very true. Good analogy there.
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GJEC
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Post by GJEC on Oct 30, 2015 6:34:08 GMT -5
Last week I was working on some takedowns involving the kiba dachi. In this particular application it is the rapid descent into kiba dachi that is key. The resulting low stance is simply the finishing position; all the magic happened on the way down. Obviously, you need a partner. Without one you'll never perfect the takedown. Which brings me back to kata, and how do you know what you are doing is doing anything? Imagine you were practicing origami (Japanese paper folding art). It is inconceivable that one would get anywhere in origami without a piece of paper to work with. There's a good example in Matthew Syed's latest book where he talks about golf practice. In the daytime you see where you're aiming, adjust and improve. If you did it in the dark you would have no feedback and therefore no way to assess the accuracy of each stroke. Same with solo kata in my opinion. Literally, karate in the dark. Sparring provides visual, sensory and painful feedback. I've heard all the stories about the mountains and a hundred Pinan every day before breakfast making people invincible. What amazes me is that people buy into them without any cross checking. Gary
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Post by meguro on Oct 30, 2015 9:34:00 GMT -5
There's a good example in Matthew Syed's latest book where he talks about golf practice. In the daytime you see where you're aiming, adjust and improve. If you did it in the dark you would have no feedback and therefore no way to assess the accuracy of each stroke. Same with solo kata in my opinion. Literally, karate in the dark. Sparring provides visual, sensory and painful feedback. I've heard all the stories about the mountains and a hundred Pinan every day before breakfast making people invincible. What amazes me is that people buy into them without any cross checking. Gary Karate in the dark- seems like it's been dark for a while. The mountain training stories should be allowed to fade quietly away. They're just not great models for learning, teaching or training. Try putting it on your resumé and see how far you get.
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